ROTS Dooku vs ANH Vader

Started by Trocity3 pages

TFU 1&2 are, what? 1-2 years before ANH? Are we all going to lower Galen Marek now as well, since he and Vader are very competitive at this point in time? Or just discount Vader's feats there? After TFU, does his suit rust and he lose all trace of skill?

Tyranus takes sabers, and all-out. Vader should take Force, though, but it's obviously close.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Er...why does Legends ANH Vader lose? By ANH he's already faced off against powerful Force Users and has some impressive Force feats.
Because Legends suggest he's much weaker than he was as Anakin.

Originally posted by MythLord
Tyranus takes sabers, and all-out. Vader should take Force, though, but it's obviously close.

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Originally posted by Dark-Kenshin
Because Legends suggest he's much weaker than he was as Anakin.

That doesn't mean he can't take Dooku, he has advantages that Anakin doesn't.

Originally posted by Dark-Kenshin
Because Legends suggest he's much weaker than he was as Anakin.
And Legends states that Dooku was a joke in comparison to said Anakin. mmm

Vader, lol

Originally posted by Trocity
TFU 1&2 are, what? 1-2 years before ANH? Are we all going to lower Galen Marek now as well, since he and Vader are very competitive at this point in time? Or just discount Vader's feats there? After TFU, does his suit rust and he lose all trace of skill?
TFU 2 is six months before ANH.

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
"And when he finds out Luke is his son, his first impulse is to figure out a way of getting him to join him to kill the Emperor. That's what Siths do! He tries it with anybody he thinks might be more powerful, which is what the Emperor was looking for in the first place: somebody who would be more powerful than he was and could help him rule the universe. But Obi-Wan screwed that up by cutting off his arms and legs and burning him up. [b]From then on, he wasn't as strong as the Emperor -- he was like Darth Maul or Count Dooku. He wasn't what he was supposed to become. But the son could become that."

--George Lucas, Rolling Stones Interview, 2005. [/B]

I'm curious what exactly this was supposed to prove for you?

It proves his potential was diminished. That's about it.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
I'm curious what exactly this was supposed to prove for you?

Especially since he thinks Maul sucks and that Dooku trounces him. Logic dictates Vader can do the same to the Count, even with the quote.

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
Who wins?

Depends of the setting. Vader's only chance is to have a lot of things, that he can throws at Dooku. Without that, his Force powers will be irrelevant. Dooku is faster and more skilled duelist, Vader - unlike Anakin - wont be able to enforce hi's style advantages. And their sabers skills will be a deciding factor here.

In legends, Dooku might have a chance but otherwise Vader wins

Dooku wins

Is there anyone of actual quality that thinks Dooku is > ANH Vader?

ANH Vader looked very slow and unimpressive in his duel against Shitbag Kenobi.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Is there anyone of actual quality that thinks Dooku is > ANH Vader?

...No.

Lies.

Vader wins.

Originally posted by playa1258
Vader wins.
Based on ?