Originally posted by Rebel95
I just think he might be to arrogant and impatient and challenge palpating too soon when his powers aren't at 100%
I can agree with that. heres the thing though, I don't think Palpatine would kill Anakin if they fought because he was well aware that Anakin would surpass him is strength and he wanted that to happen, he even said as much to Yoda before their fight. Sidious was a Sith through and through and he would want Vader to ascend him as the most powerful Sith Lord of all time and carry on the dominance of the Sith Order.
The RotS novel's ending suggests that when Vader found out that Padme died, he was reaching out to crush everything but couldn't affect the Emperor due to his diminished powers. The implication there being that if he hadn't lost any limbs, Vader would've indeed killed the Emperor in that state of rage.
Originally posted by darthbane77Watch your tone. Vader is overrated. Kylo killing Han isn't I press over combat wise it is impressive in terms of overcoming his own feelings for his father to get the job done. Vader failed. He always failed.
Still less of a failure than Kylo Ren. Being one of the greatest Jedi killers and most powerful Sith ever>>>killing Harrison Ford via cheap-shot.
Originally posted by darthbane77Kylo's training hasn't finished yet. In due time. Freezing the blaster bolt was more impressive than anything Vader did in the films.
Depends on what you say he "failed" at. If you mean he failed at not killing every Jedi he ran into then yeah he failed, or if you mean he failed at being weak then you'd be right. Kylo hasn't done shit that puts him on Vader's level in any way, shape or form; stop deluding yourself.
Stalemating a nursing home Kenobi won't bring home any gold medals, amigo.
Originally posted by quanchi112As far as films go I do agree with you, Kylo's Force feats as far as films only are better. But it's also implied in TFA that Vader is still more powerful than Kylo was. Kylo likely will surpass Vader eventually, but it's also likely that Kylo will return to the light as his grandfather did.
Kylo's training hasn't finished yet. In due time. Freezing the blaster bolt was more impressive than anything Vader did in the films.Stalemating a nursing home Kenobi won't bring home any gold medals, amigo.
Originally posted by darthbane77So you agree he will surpass Vader. 😂
As far as films go I do agree with you, Kylo's Force feats as far as films only are better. But it's also implied in TFA that Vader is still more powerful than Kylo was. Kylo likely will surpass Vader eventually, but it's also likely that Kylo will return to the light as his grandfather did.
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