Originally posted by Geistalt
Non-Skywalker Non-Banites (Excluding Valkorion and Nihilus):1. Yoda
2. Kyp Durron
3. Revan
4. Talzin
5. Darth Krayt
6. Starkiller
7. Dark Apprentice
8. Gethzerion
9. Marka Ragnos
10. Tulak Hord
Originally posted by GeistaltThe age difference between Mace and Tyranus should also be taken into account.
Point taken.I still enjoy that "my greatest enemy under the tutelage of Exar Kun" quote.
For the record, I prefer the idea that Starkiller > Krayt Force-wise, but I'm not sure how well that'd go with the people who rank him next to Revan. And I ranked Gethzerion > Marka Ragnos because we've got a better idea of how powerful she was (ie enough to whip up some thunderstorms and frighten Luke when Vader couldn't).
Anyways, here's where everything turns into a giant clusterfvck.
11. Exar Kun / Galen Marek
12. Exar Kun / Galen Marek
13. Tassar
14. Adelade
15. Vaylin
16. Soa
17. Mace Windu
18. Darth Malgus
19. Tau
20. ArcannAnd for the record, yes: I believe Mace surpassed Tyranus in the time that he left. How else would you explain his ability to defeat Sidious (and block his lightning indefinitely) when "our greatest student" dared not question his power?
Originally posted by GeistaltAuto-fixed (upon considering the clones' TK).
Force-Users:
1. Luke Skywalker
2. Darth Sidious
3. Yoda
4. UnuThul
5. Valkorion
6. Revan
7. Darth Plagueis
8. Darth Nihilus
9. Darth Krayt
10. Kyp Durron
11. Starkiller
12. Dark Apprentice
13. Gethzerion
14. Darth Caedus
15. Darth Vader
Not including non-independent Force strength.
Talzin's somewhere from between Krayt and Kyp to UnuThul and Valkorion.
I know Nihilus' Force Drain is stronger than anything Plagueis has, but I had to take blurb into account.
Besides, it's not like Nihilus can actually control that ability of his.
Originally posted by GeistaltFixed it anyways.
Force-Users:
1. Luke Skywalker
2. Darth Sidious
3. Yoda
4. Darth Nihilus
5. UnuThul
6. Valkorion
7. Revan
8. Darth Plagueis
9. Darth Krayt
10. Kyp Durron
11. Starkiller
12. Dark Apprentice
13. Gethzerion
14. Darth Caedus
15. Darth Vader
New Top Sith list, lol.
Mainly gut feeling. *shrug*
Force Only:
1. Darth Sidious
2. Darth Plagueis
3. Lord Vitiate
4. Darth Tenebrous
5. Darth Nihilus
6./7./8. Darth Krayt / Exar Kun /Darth Caedus
6./7./8. Exar Kun / Darth Krayt / Darth Caedus
6./7./8. Darth Caedus / Darth Krayt / Exar Kun
9. Darth Vader [RotJ]
10. Marka Ragnos / Freddon Nadd
Not including Knightfall! Vader, pre-Tenebrous Banites, Taalon & Vol
Sabers only:
1. Darth Sidious
2. Knightfall! Vader
3. Darth Plagueis
4. Darth Caedus
5./6. Darth Tyranus / Darth Krayt
5./6. Darth Krayt / Darth Tyranus
7. Darth Vader [RotJ]
8. Exar Kun
9./10. Ulic-Qel Droma / Darth Maul
9./10. Darth Maul / Ulic Qel-Droma
Not including "unknown" ancients [like Ragnos & Hord] and pre-Plagueis Banites
Not too convinced that Caedus is a better saber duelist than Tyranus on account of feats, although I suppose that if his command of the Force is well above the Count's, then I guess his saber prowess should also be better to an extent.
I also think Ulic needs to be named on the power list if Kun is. He may no longer be a rival of Kun's by 3996 BBY, but he should still be relatively close.
Originally posted by SunRazer
Not too convinced that Caedus is a better saber duelist than Tyranus on account of feats, although I suppose that if his command of the Force is well above the Count's, then I guess his saber prowess should also be better to an extent.
Originally posted by Ursumeles
New Top Sith list, lol.Mainly gut feeling. *shrug*
[B]Force Only:
1. Darth Sidious
2. Darth Plagueis
3. Lord Vitiate
4. Darth Tenebrous
5. Darth Nihilus
6./7./8. Darth Krayt / Exar Kun /Darth Caedus
6./7./8. Exar Kun / Darth Krayt / Darth Caedus
6./7./8. Darth Caedus / Darth Krayt / Exar Kun
9. Darth Vader [RotJ]
10. Marka Ragnos / Freddon NaddNot including Knightfall! Vader, pre-Tenebrous Banites, Taalon & Vol
Sabers only:
1. Darth Sidious
2. Knightfall! Vader
3. Darth Plagueis
4. Darth Caedus
5./6. Darth Tyranus / Darth Krayt
5./6. Darth Krayt / Darth Tyranus
7. Darth Vader [RotJ]
8. Exar Kun
9./10. Ulic-Qel Droma / Darth Maul
9./10. Darth Maul / Ulic Qel-DromaNot including "unknown" ancients [like Ragnos & Hord] and pre-Plagueis Banites [/B]
I can agree with the sabers only list, but why do you have Vitiate higher than Tenebrous? And why is Caedus so high? Ulic is missing, too.
Just realized the reason I don't like ranking the Skywalkers is because their Force potential's always courtesy of the circumstances of their birth.
Anyways, new list(s):
1. Luke Skywalker
2. Darth Sidious
3. Prime!Yoda
4. Knightfall!Vader
5. Valkorion
6. Darth Plagueis
7. Darth Krayt
8. Raynar Thul
9. Revan
10. Kyp Durron
11. Starkiller(s)
12. Darth Caedus
13. Exar Kun / Vaylin
14. Exar Kun / Vaylin
15. Gethzerion
16. Cade Skywalker
17. Mace Windu
18. Darth Tyranus
19. Darth Malgus
20. Jaina Solo Fel
Don't care about your Dooku quotes; we all know how AotC and Dark Rendezvous went down (ie with Tyranus exploiting Yoda's conscience).
Non-Skywalkers/Starkillers Scaled Holistically:
1. Darth Sidious
2. Yoda
3. Valkorion
4. Darth Plagueis (Nihilus here for Drain and transferring his soul into his armor)
5. Darth Krayt
6. Raynar Thul
7. Revan
8. Kyp Durron
9. Exar Kun / Vaylin
10. Exar Kun / Vaylin
11. Darth Tenebrous / Darth Venamis
12. Darth Tenebrous / Darth Venamis
13. Gethzerion
14. Mace Windu
15. Darth Tyranus
16. Darth Malgus
Non-Skywalkers/Starkillers Scaled Through TK and Accolades:
1. Kyp Durron
2. Darth Sidious
3. Yoda
4. Valkorion
5. Darth Plagueis (Nihilus here for Drain and transferring his soul into his armor)
6. Raynar Thul
7. Revan
8. Darth Krayt
9. Exar Kun / Vaylin
10. Exar Kun / Vaylin
11. Gethzerion
12. Mace Windu
13. Darth Tyranus
14. Darth Malgus