Most powerful character Nihilus can gigadrain

Started by Nephthys3 pages
Originally posted by Ursumeles
IIRC, he bombed the Planet first and feed of the death on it.

You do not recall correctly.

Originally posted by Nephthys
You do not recall correctly.

Quote? I'll search one too.

"It is a technique that is almost as old as the Sith themselves... it is a means of severing connections between life, the Force, and feeding upon the death it causes. It cannot be taught... it can only be gained through instinct, through experiencing its effects, first-hand."

"He's right. It's... all the deaths you've caused to get here. You feed on it, and you grow stronger. You're like Malachor... it's in you, it's what you are now."

Source: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords

Credit to Nova 🙂

It takes a certain kind of poster to rely on a quote as evidence for his position when that quote actually contradicts it. 😆

Yes, Nihilus feeds on death.... right after he causes it. He completely severs any living thing from the Force, which causes death, then feeds on it and grows stronger.

And to answer your question, when the Exile asks Visas about Katarr she mentions that "it was not something done with machines or weapons".

But at this point I'm convinced you haven't actually played the game, because the whole premise of Nihilus' character is that he's a not a normal Force user, he's a black whole in the Force, a Cthullu-esque abomination that will eventually extinguish all life in the Galaxy.

You want proof that Nihilus can drain anyone? The whole game is the proof. That's what the whole game is about. All life is touched by the Force, and Nihilus and the Exile are literal wounds that feed on it.

If you're a Force user, nay, if you're a living thing, Nihilus can drain you. It's that simple.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8qXlUpJBR4

At 4:45.

1. It helps me tho, lol. Also, he does feed on the death-the death isn't caused by his drain, but by his severing of the force.
Nihilius can't just sever an stronger force user than himself, lol.
2. LMAO. What proves that? Valkorion draining Ziost, Sidious force storms, Luke pinning Caedus against his chair, etc. also weren't done with machines or weapons.
3. Yeah, I've not played it, but I saw an Lets Play 🙂
Also, that Nihilius would eventually destroy the galaxy isn't that impressive-about Valkorion and Sidious was stated the same.
4. In the game is also an proof against it-Traya.
Bonus: I doubt that Nihilius could train an Yuuzhan Vong, tbh. Interesting question, tho.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
"it is a means of severing connections between life, the Force, and feeding upon the death it causes.

The technique causes the death. Not some fabricated bombing. Some twit, I don't recall who, tried that theory because of a quote saying he fed on planets he "blasted into ruin", despite the fact that we freaking see the attack in Unseen, Unheard and the attack itself kills everyone and wrecks the planets buildings etc.

Yoda or Valkorion, tbh.

Actually, he might be able to drain Luke as well (and even Sidious, provided he's not actually a Force wound), but not before he speedblitzes him.

Originally posted by Nephthys
The technique causes the death. Not some fabricated bombing. Some twit, I don't recall who, tried that theory because of a quote saying he fed on planets he "blasted into ruin", despite the fact that we freaking see the attack in Unseen, Unheard and the attack itself kills everyone and wrecks the planets buildings etc.

Yeah, I saw that too. But it feeds on the death, that is more important.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
1. It helps me tho, lol. Also, he does feed on the death-the death isn't caused by his drain, but by his severing of the force.
Nihilius can't just sever an stronger force user than himself, lol.
2. LMAO. What proves that? Valkorion draining Ziost, Sidious force storms, Luke pinning Caedus against his chair, etc. also weren't done with machines or weapons.
3. Yeah, I've not played it, but I saw an Lets Play 🙂
Also, that Nihilius would eventually destroy the galaxy isn't that impressive-about Valkorion and Sidious was stated the same.
4. In the game is also an proof against it-Traya.
Bonus: I doubt that Nihilius could train an Yuuzhan Vong, tbh. Interesting question, tho.

Serves me right for ignoring my instincts. 🙄

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Yeah, I saw that too. But it feeds on the death, that is more important.

That isn't all it does, nor the extent to which is can be applied. But regardless, you concede that Nihilus didn't bomb the planets?

You can youtube Unseen, Unheard if you want. It shows Katarrs destruction.

Originally posted by Nephthys
That isn't all it does, nor the extent to which is can be applied. But regardless, you concede that Nihilus didn't bomb the planets?

You can youtube Unseen, Unheard if you want. It shows Katarrs destruction.


I don't saw an quote, that It don't feed on the death.
Yes, I do.

Any Force-user who cannot resist it and/or cheat death. Raw power is irrelevant here.

So, to cause death, it's user must be able to sever connection between life and The Force.. And to do that, you have to be superior Force users, or catch your enemy off-guard. Most people killed by Nihilus tat way were in fact taken off-guard od weaker then him (Perhaps Kreia would be able to resist, so Nihilus took Sion with him, to Force her to split her attention between them both).

Originally posted by McP
And to do that, you have to be superior Force users, or catch your enemy off-guard.

Nah.

Yes.

Proof?

The fact that Kreia said there's no defense doesn't mean you can suddenly apply a no-limits fallacy to it. 😂

More importantly, Kreia also says that the technique, at its highest pinnacle of power, can consume anything that lives. She then goes on to say that Nihilus is rapidly reaching the height of its power, so he obviously can't "consume anything that lives" yet.

Why should we think that Nihilus's drain is fundamentally different from that of, say, Krayt, who drained Luke and Abeloth for ages and didn't seem to insta-kill them?