Vitiate's "domination" on Nathema

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Originally posted by Azronger
Do you have anything constructive to share?
My posts in this thread are more constructive than yours as minimalistic as they are. 👆

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
They could agree because they were dominated. 😬

I don't see any contradiction. Vitiate is BAMF. 👆

If they were dominated, then Vitiate wouldn't have had to feed them lies about "an ultimate dark side weapon". It is very much a contradiction, as is this:

The Ritual of Nathema is celebrated among Imperial scholars as a rare and amazing coming together of Sith for the good of the Empire.

Any proof Nyriss is more reliable than multiple other Imperial scholars?

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Doesn't it surprise you that Vitiate managed to [B]convince 8000 Sith to participate in a ritual?

I don't think that Sith are that obedient. Those Sith were not on the same page for choosing a leader even (i.e. Naga Sadow versus Ludo Kressh). [/B]

Well, Vitiate is supposed to be a ripoff of Palpatine who managed to fool 10000 Jedi, so...

Originally posted by Azronger
If they were dominated, then Vitiate wouldn't have had to feed them lies about "an ultimate dark side weapon". It is very much a contradiction, as is this:

The Ritual of Nathema is celebrated among Imperial scholars as a rare and amazing coming together of Sith for the good of the Empire.

Any proof Nyriss is more reliable than multiple other Imperial scholars?


That is what Vitiate wanted them to believe.

Why do you think that anybody even suspected of discovering Nathema mysteriously vanished?

The novel goes to great lengths to elaborate a point; that Vitiate was deceiving his Sith followers. He could not be trusted.

Darth Nyriss and a few other members of the Dark Council somehow discovered Nathema and learned more about his past from there. They decided to overthrow Vitiate due to that.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Why Vitiate was trying to conceal Nathema than?

Conceal it from whom?

The novel goes to great lengths to elaborate a point; that Vitiate was deceiving his Sith followers. He could not be trusted.

Bingo! 👆

Darth Nyriss and a few other members of the Dark Council somehow discovered Nathema and learned more about his past from there. They decided to overthrow Vitiate due to that.

That still doesn't validate Nyriss' tale, which is still non-canon.

Originally posted by Azronger
Any proof Nyriss is more reliable than multiple other Imperial scholars?

Lol, Nyriss' words weren't censored by Vitiate. If anything them saying that makes our case stronger.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Lol, Nyriss' words weren't censored by Vitiate. If anything them saying that makes our case stronger.

And the Imperial scholars' were?

So what's the argument here? 8000 sith lords willingly gave their mental faculties to over to a stranger? I somehow, find that very hard to believe.

Uh, duh. You think intellectual freedom is a thing in the Empire?

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
So what's the argument here? 8000 sith lords willingly gave their mental faculties to over to a stranger? I somehow, find that very hard to believe.

Read POD and believing it will become much easier.

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
So what's the argument here? 8000 sith lords willingly gave their mental faculties to over to a stranger? I somehow, find that very hard to believe.
Well, how many Sith were alive in the galaxy overall? Millions? Keep in mind that they all inhabited multiple planets (while the 7,000,000,000 of us only inhabit one), and that the vast majority of Sith were Force-sensitive.

wut?

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
wut?
There were probably hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of Sith Lords that were alive back then.

Ok?

Your point, Geisalt?

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
They could agree because they were dominated. 😬

I don't see any contradiction. Vitiate is BAMF. 👆

Only if we interpret the English language dishonestly. Agreeing to do something and being forced to do something are mutually exclusive.

What's your take on this, Temp?

Originally posted by Azronger
What's your take on this, Temp?

The rational one, per usual.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
They could agree because they were dominated. 😬
😂

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Only if we interpret the English language dishonestly. Agreeing to do something and being forced to do something are mutually exclusive.

Never heard of being forced to agree?

It's a pretty common phrase, in the English language at least.