TOR vs PT/OT vs NJO

Started by Ursumeles3 pages

Valk is only allowed to die one time, like all others. Luke and Yoda could come back as force ghost, etc.
As RotS Palpatine is > Valkorion, I don't see RotS Sidious, Luke or Yoda losing against Valk.

Valkorion doesn't score an victory against Team 2, lol. And TFU Palpatine was implied, to be able ragdolling Galen/Vader, both of whom are above Arcann.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Valk is only allowed to die one time, like all others. Luke and Yoda could come back as force ghost, etc.
As RotS Palpatine is > Valkorion, I don't see RotS Sidious, Luke or Yoda losing against Valk.

Valkorion doesn't score an victory against Team 2, lol. And TFU Palpatine was implied, to be able ragdolling Galen/Vader, both of whom are above Arcann.


Fair.

How is Palpatine > Valkorion?

PT/OT Team wins in a decent fight.

NJO Team stands little/no chance of winning.

Beyond the vision of the Jedi Knights, somewhere within the darkness, the greatest master of evil ever to use Sith power bides his time. As his strength grows, his plans begin to shape the course of the galaxy, and his snares await the unsuspecting.
--Taken from The Complete Visual Dictionary

Originally posted by Geistalt
NJO Team stands little/no chance of winning.

How come?

Tbfh, I would say that Team NJO would have the best chances, if this would be perfect teamwork.

Originally posted by MythLord
How come?
k; upon reading about how well Sebatyne fared against Abeloth, I take it back. They're about even, except for Team 2 (thank to Plagueis). From what I can tell, UnuThul and Arcann are weak links (especially the latter–although Revan should still be far enough ahead of Saba to give Team 1 the advantage in a fight against Team 3).

What is with Saba? Shimrra is in the fight, not she, lmao.
Also, UnuThul >>>> Saba 😬

@Gei This is not Saba, this is Shimrra, i.e. this dude:

http://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/wollfmyth209/blog/shimrra-jamaane-respect-thread/128478/

And UnuThul isn't a weak link, not when he's performing decently enough against Luke.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Beyond the vision of the Jedi Knights, somewhere within the darkness, the greatest master of evil ever to use Sith power bides his time. As his strength grows, his plans begin to shape the course of the galaxy, and his snares await the unsuspecting.
--Taken from The Complete Visual Dictionary

Palpatine > The Son confirmed? 🙂

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Palpatine > The Son confirmed? 🙂

Entities are usually not included in this lists 🙂

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Entities are usually not included in this lists 🙂

Valkorion is an entity 🙂

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Valkorion is an entity 🙂

No real one 🙂

Originally posted by MythLord
[B]@Gei This is not Saba, this is Shimrra, i.e. this dude:

http://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/wollfmyth209/blog/shimrra-jamaane-respect-thread/128478/

And UnuThul isn't a weak link, not when he's performing decently enough against Luke. [/B]

Yeah; no. Luke dismembered him with negligible risk. He's more around Mace/Tyranus/Kyle/Gaalan's tier as a combatant.

Originally posted by Geistalt
Yeah; no. Luke dismembered him with negligible risk. He's more around Mace/Tyranus/Kyle/Gaalan's tier as a combatant.

Lol. Firstly, Tyranus/Mace > Kyle/Gaalan, and second: it was an serious Luke. An serious Luke roflstomps the likes of Tyranus with ease. Also, UnuThul mindraped Jaina, Zekk and co., deflected turbolasers, and dominated Luke in their first fight.
He would ragdoll Windu, Tyranus, Kyle and Gaalaan.

TOR TEAM
Valkorion is superior to anybody on any team and no one can beat him 1 on 1.

Revan is superior to Plagueis, and outmatched by either Yoda or Palpatine. He is also superior to Shimrra, equal to UnuThul and below Luke.

Arcann is superior to Plagueis barely, whole level below Yoda and Palpatine. He is about equal or slightly superior to Shimrra. Below UnuThul, totally outmatched by Luke.

PT TEAM
* Sidious falls to Valkorion and Luke only.
* Yoda falls to Valkorion and Luke only.
* Plagueis gets murdered by Valkorion, falls to Revan and Arcann. Can't say about UnuThul or Shimrra. Inferior to Luke, obviously.

NJO TEAM
* Luke falls only to Valkorion.
* UnuThul falls only to Valkorion. Equal to Revan.
* Shimrra falls to Valkorion, Revan, Sidious and Yoda.

Yeah, I think PT wins. Yoda gives a good fight to Valkorion, Sidious slays Arcann easily at the time, and Plagueis gives a good fight to Revan. Then Sidious can aid Plagueis and they quickly overpower Revan. Yoda is probably still alive by then, and even if he's not, Sidious and Plagueis can overrun him together if they are lucky.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Lol. Firstly, Tyranus/Mace > Kyle/Gaalan, and second: it was an serious Luke. An serious Luke roflstomps the likes of Tyranus with ease. Also, UnuThul mindraped Jaina, Zekk and co., deflected turbolasers, and dominated Luke in their first fight.
He would ragdoll Windu, Tyranus, Kyle and Gaalaan.
Disagreed about Dooku and Mace being > Kyle, and he evidently didn't want to kill him.

Originally posted by Geistalt
Even though he evidently didn't intend to kill him.

Not intending to kill =/= holding back.
You asked me if I ever played KotOR II in another therad. Now I ask you: did you've ever read DN?
Luke as of his fight with UnuThul was the "heart of the force", not even "the black hole in the center of the galaxy" could have moved him. That isn't holding back, lmfao.

Originally posted by Geistalt
Disagreed about Dooku and Mace being > Kyle.

Lol.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
No real one 🙂

😬

What is real entity?