Thor (Jane Foster) vs Wonder Woman

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Angela has faster than thought reflexes actually (> Light) but no, she isn't faster than Thor's lightning or Mjolnir. She has superior reflexes to Thor most likely, but she isn't noticeably faster than him in combat when he's going all out.

So in a roundabout way, Thor is FTL in combat, right?

And no, speed of thought is not always faster than light.

Nothing I said is debatable and is objectively true. Not across all comics, but in the comics that they happened in. What about that is funny? Because it goes against the more palpable narrative iyo?

Because it's just plain dumb. What comic shows unworthy Thor as FTL? ABC Comparison like this is why we can't have nice things.

I get it, Thor is super slow, Wonder Woman is super fast and that's been the narrative but comics change, and there is contradictory evidence now.

Like what? Unworthy Thor fighting Angela where she used no speed?

Guess how actual speedsters like Gladiator fight Angela?

This FOOL just asked me what evidence there is of Mjolnir performing speed blitzes....

Why don't you show us this FTL blitz from the hammer.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Angela has faster than thought reflexes actually (> Light) but no, she isn't faster than Thor's lightning or Mjolnir. She has superior reflexes to Thor most likely, but she isn't noticeably faster than him in combat when he's going all out.

Nothing I said is debatable and is objectively true. Not across all comics, but in the comics that they happened in. What about that is funny? Because it goes against the more palpable narrative iyo?

I get it, Thor is super slow, Wonder Woman is super fast and that's been the narrative but comics change, and there is contradictory evidence now.

This FOOL just asked me what evidence there is of Mjolnir performing speed blitzes....

Also beware of hyperbole.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Mjolnir is sentient now, it's not weaker. The magic of Mjolnir's flight has broken the grip of Zeus, the Destroyer, shattered dimensional barriers, and broken through Atum's head. It's tore through Angrir etc.

All by its speed?

Self-propulsion is not new. Sentience is. We don't have to use Thor's throwing feats to realize that if it's flying at Wonder Woman, it'll f*ck her shit up if she isn't careful.

Like a random dragon?

[b]Angela is specifically noted for her insane speed. She is much faster than all other Asgardian's except maybe the speedier ones like Hermod and maybe Balder. I get it, you are getting desperate, but these stupid strawmans are tiring. She is the daughter of Odin, a royal, how does someone like Sif even enter the picture?

But not faster than Thor, isn't that right?

Yes, it is a great example of FTl reflexes. In the previous issue (The entire run highlight's her speed):

Where Disir move faster than lightning, not faster than light.

Faster than thought is nothing new. Diana moved that fast twenty years ago.

http://i.imgur.com/AikpUTv.jpg

She was more mid tier at the time than now.

"They came by ancient curse, by Bor-father magic. In their first strike, the fallen...are faster than lightning, faster than thought. But not faster than Angela."

Bor's magic means that they instantly teleport to wherever you are and chop you into pieces:
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11119/111197929/4875822-this+what+happens+with+a+regular+asgardian+with+asgardian+armor%28similar+to+thor%27s%29+when+he+challenges+the+disir%2C.jpg [/B]

Right, Disir are so much faster than Supergirl. Or Reverse Flash. Or Cheetah.

Why don't you show Jane Thor moving faster than thought because at her best she moved like lightning which is slower than Disir here.

Originally posted by h1a8
the speed of thought is 30m/s

Also beware of hyperbole.

It's supposed to be 70 -120m/s.. are you trying to say that you're slow? j/k

Originally posted by abhilegend
So in a roundabout way, Thor is FTL in combat, right?

And no, speed of thought is not always faster than light.

Because it's just plain dumb. What comic shows unworthy Thor as FTL? ABC Comparison like this is why we can't have nice things.

Like what? Unworthy Thor fighting Angela where she used no speed?

Guess how actual speedsters like Gladiator fight Angela?

Why don't you show us this FTL blitz from the hammer.

For the last three pages....you've been saying Diana is incredibly fast because she's fought Hermes and Supergirl...and now you're saying ABC logic (Which is what you introduced into the convo) is not valid?

Originally posted by abhilegend
All by its speed?

Like a random dragon?

But not faster than Thor, isn't that right?

Where Disir move faster than lightning, not faster than light.

Faster than thought is nothing new. Diana moved that fast twenty years ago.

http://i.imgur.com/AikpUTv.jpg

She was more mid tier at the time than now.

Right, Disir are so much faster than Supergirl. Or Reverse Flash. Or Cheetah.

Why don't you show Jane Thor moving faster than thought because at her best she moved like lightning which is slower than Disir here.

These aren't even arguments. You're just going "So YOU MUST think Thor can twirl his penis ten times faster than Zoom if he's this fast!"

That's a great feat for Diana.

Originally posted by Diesldude
It's supposed to be 70 -120m/s.. are you trying to say that you're slow? j/k

that idea and definition is far too limiting and something i've seen too many times on the site to not address anymore. you're both talking about neuronal transfer but that doesn't necessarily mean the same as 'thought'. we can form responses to stimuli in less than 5 milliseconds and conscious stimuli in as little as 20ms. that requires information to travel FAR in excess of either cited speed and is in fact extremely fast, but that doesn't mean 'thought' necessarily either. i mean brains still process and act on information faster than the fastest computers! and if we view thought as a transfer of information from one place to another, than it can 100%, in real life, be faster than light--look at quantum entanglement experiments if you don't believe me.

the speed of thought can be defined in many ways. restricting it to just one way is, well, simplistic. /shrug

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
For the last three pages....you've been saying Diana is incredibly fast because she's fought Hermes and Supergirl...and now you're saying ABC logic (Which is what you introduced into the convo) is not valid?

Wonder Woman officially has Superspeed and Thor does not?

Wonder Woman is actually stated to be as fast as Supergirl while Unworthy Thor just fought Angela and thus all her feats are transferred to him.

Or something.

These aren't even arguments. You're just going "So YOU MUST think Thor can twirl his penis ten times faster than Zoom if he's this fast!"

Only you can think of Thor's penis in that way.

That's a great feat for Diana.

But not as fast as Angela, right?