Thor (Jane Foster) vs Wonder Woman

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
1) Mjolnir has only recently been revealed as being sentient you f*cking invertebrate.

I think you need a break from KMC. You're barely coherent anymore man. I'm replying out of habit at this point. I think I'll stop here now....

Right, it's I who is incoherent. How many asgardians are there with FTL reflexes now? Warriors Three? Sif? Tyr?

Is there anyone in Asgard who isn't a FTL speedster?

Odinson has always provided the torque. When it is clear the hammer is moving under its own power, it's normally clear and depicted as such. Otherwise it's understood Odinson's arm provides the force/energy of its movement.

Hammer throws are regulated by how much force he applies.

The speed of his swings are regulated by how much he applies.

Sometimes even he doesn't know how much he holds back. It's all about that arm my friend.

That's what Mjolnir wanted Thor to think.

It never flew for him like it did with Jane 😈

Originally posted by abhilegend

Angela has FTL reflexes now but isn't faster than lightning and isn't faster than Thor?

Like how fast this solar system spanning lightning can travel so far nigh instantly.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Odinson has always provided the torque. When it is clear the hammer is moving under its own power, it's normally clear and depicted as such. Otherwise it's understood Odinson's arm provides the force/energy of its movement.

Hammer throws are regulated by how much force he applies.

The speed of his swings are regulated by how much he applies.

Why didn't I thought of that.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Thor's lightning isn't just regular lightning. Should be understood by now that it does crazy things.

Like how fast this solar system spanning lightning can travel so far nigh instantly.

Now it's FTL lightning to support FTL Thor. Now what, FTL rain? FTL storms?

Does Thor do anything below lightspeed? Guess they should make an explanation as to how Thor is so fast. A FTLThor force™.

Patent pending.

I swear to god, some people here seem like they've read comics for the first time.

What's next, arguing The Thing is supersonic, because his punches affect high end durability characters?

@Abhi
Hey.. I didn't write it.
😉

Fine. Half a solar system. sly

You mean Thing isn't supersonic?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
@Abhi
Hey.. I didn't write it.
😉

Originally posted by abhilegend
You mean Thing isn't supersonic?

His punches obviously have a very high velocity, otherwise it wouldn't make sense in a physics sense!

And he tagged FTL Thor that one time.

Originally posted by abhilegend
And he tagged FTL Thor that one time.

Asking the real questions, here.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Right, how can anyone claim such a thing when the comic says that. Blasphemy.

Right, Superman is slower than Thor or Angela or Mongoose. Are you satisfied? Should I also mention that Thor is stronger than Superman so that I can show I don't hate marvel characters?

Of course.

Right, because she obviously doesn't has the speed or something like her bracers to stop that.

Jane must have defeated all her opponents in a single panel in this way.

Right, how can anyone use that scene. I'm deeply ashamed that I used a comic not approved by Rage.

stop shifting goalposts. your goal was simple--show that the hammer is slow, hence ww could dodge it because even angela could do so. but a lot of people without cosmic speeds have dodged it. this clearly shows it (as anyone with commonsense would know) that it depends on how fast thor throws it. lately, the hammer has acted on its own a number of times. on its own it can and has easily reached ftl speeds.

could diana dodge it? sure. no need to lowball. could she absorbs a blows on the bracers? yeah, that'd be interesting to see though.

again, i have no idea who would win this fight but each one would be really close and saying the hammer itself can counteract diana's personal speed advantage is completely logical in my mind. in fact with its recent showings i'd say jane has a better chance of countering her speed edge than thor did. hence the reason i don't think speed would be a factor in the large majority of these fights.

i'd say close to a split, or, depending how exotic, slight edge to jane. certainly no one is stomping anyone though.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Right, you just interpret it dumbly.

Originally posted by abhilegend
From behind? Supergirl directly says she is too fast and she did not even see her move.

No, it doesn't lacks speed feats. She fought Hermes at Superspeed too.

But I guess that doesn't counts either.

Right, because Mjolnir has such a great wealth of scene of blitzing at Superspeed.

Why don't you show us these blitzing feat for mjolnir?

Right, have you even prepared for the BZ next week?

Angela has FTL reflexes now but isn't faster than lightning and isn't faster than Thor?

😂

Are you going to show us the pie throwing scene again?

Angela has faster than thought reflexes actually (> Light) but no, she isn't faster than Thor's lightning or Mjolnir. She has superior reflexes to Thor most likely, but she isn't noticeably faster than him in combat when he's going all out.

Nothing I said is debatable and is objectively true. Not across all comics, but in the comics that they happened in. What about that is funny? Because it goes against the more palpable narrative iyo?

I get it, Thor is super slow, Wonder Woman is super fast and that's been the narrative but comics change, and there is contradictory evidence now.

This FOOL just asked me what evidence there is of Mjolnir performing speed blitzes....

Originally posted by abhilegend
Oh right, but we will use scans of the previous "thrown by Thor" strength for it too.

Well obviously. It's not like the hammer is flying by its own for decades.

Isn't that right? I guess Green Lanterns blitz everyone to death by now.

Right, it's I who is incoherent. How many asgardians are there with FTL reflexes now? Warriors Three? Sif? Tyr?

Is there anyone in Asgard who isn't a FTL speedster?

Mjolnir is sentient now, it's not weaker. The magic of Mjolnir's flight has broken the grip of Zeus, the Destroyer, shattered dimensional barriers, and broken through Atum's head. It's tore through Angrir etc.

Self-propulsion is not new. Sentience is. We don't have to use Thor's throwing feats to realize that if it's flying at Wonder Woman, it'll f*ck her shit up if she isn't careful.

Angela is specifically noted for her insane speed. She is much faster than all other Asgardian's except maybe the speedier ones like Hermod and maybe Balder. I get it, you are getting desperate, but these stupid strawmans are tiring. She is the daughter of Odin, a royal, how does someone like Sif even enter the picture?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Great examples of FTL reflexes right there.

I guess unworthy Thor and his lightning are also FTL, isn't that right? Along with Loki, Balder and the rest of the asgardians?

How about Supergirl vs Flash then? I know flash isn't as fast as unworthy Thor or Disir but at least consider this a feat for the lowly Wonder Woman.

http://imgur.com/a/ejrZf

Yes, it is a great example of FTl reflexes. In the previous issue (The entire run highlight's her speed):

"They came by ancient curse, by Bor-father magic. In their first strike, the fallen...are faster than lightning, faster than thought. But not faster than Angela."

Bor's magic means that they instantly teleport to wherever you are and chop you into pieces:
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11119/111197929/4875822-this+what+happens+with+a+regular+asgardian+with+asgardian+armor%28similar+to+thor%27s%29+when+he+challenges+the+disir%2C.jpg

Originally posted by leonidas
stop shifting goalposts. your goal was simple--show that the hammer is slow, hence ww could dodge it because even angela could do so. but a lot of people without cosmic speeds have dodged it. this clearly shows it (as anyone with commonsense would know) that it depends on how fast thor throws it. lately, the hammer has acted on its own a number of times. on its own it can and has easily reached ftl speeds.

Right, because showing Angela dodging it while commenting she is faster than the hammer is supposed to be lowballing.

Has it reached FTL while blitzing someone as Rage put it? Because lots of characters and items have gone FTL in past.

could diana dodge it? sure. no need to lowball. could she absorbs a blows on the bracers? yeah, that'd be interesting to see though.

Right, because Rage thinks she has no chance of doing that because the hammer would straight up blitz her.

again, i have no idea who would win this fight but each one would be really close and saying the hammer itself can counteract diana's personal speed advantage is completely logical in my mind. in fact with its recent showings i'd say jane has a better chance of countering her speed edge than thor did. hence the reason i don't think speed would be a factor in the large majority of these fights.

i'd say close to a split, or, depending how exotic, slight edge to jane. certainly no one is stomping anyone though.

That's what I said too.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Like Ranx? GL subspace routes? Surfer and big bang? Magneto shields? HV shockwaves? Loki's astral form?