What if Obi Wan had continued training?

Started by Kurk3 pages

Originally posted by quanchi112
That isn't the same thing. we are assuming their level of practice, diet, training as stayed relatively the same. Michael Jordan in his 20's is better than in his fifties. Facts, kiddo.

I don't disagree that senescence exists

He might scrape Ahsoka-tier.

Quanchi doesn't know what the Force is Lol

Originally posted by Kurk
I don't disagree that senescence exists
So you agree.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Quanchi doesn't know what the Force is Lol
I most certainly do and unlike you I know what evidence is. Lucas also stated iirc we see what a Jedi in their prime is capable of.p in the prequels. Kenobi is far more impressive in rots than he was in ANH. I'm very good at this, D. Thor.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you agree.

Obviously an older person is not going to be as strong in their physical capabilities. I just wanted to be a smart-ass and use my first example.

Originally posted by Kurk
Obviously an older person is not going to be as strong in their physical capabilities. I just wanted to be a smart-ass and use my first example.
So you concede to your former master.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you concede to your former master.

I don't have a problem doing that unlike you. It would be nice to get along.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
He might scrape Ahsoka-tier.

We are discussing if Kenobi improves, not if he deteriorates.

Originally posted by Kurk
Obviously an older person is not going to be as strong in their physical capabilities. I just wanted to be a smart-ass and use my first example.

Dude Dooku was decades older than even Old Ben. The only reason for Ben to be < ROTS Kenobi is if he's completely out of practice.

But even if he practices from time to time he should be fine. Increased mastery of the force would easily compensate for his body getting older.

It's pretty easy to see why Obi Wan became weaker during his exile. Without practice or Jedi resources to improve himself including other members to practice with, all he's really doing is getting Older. Conflating Dooku's personal experiences with his is a faulty comparison because of the severe difference in environment, their personal goals and the fact that Dooku might just be more powerful than Kenobi. I'm sure if Ben did take up the time to become more masterful with his use of the Force, he might not of degraded so badly, but it wasn't in his best interest, his goal was to ascend to past the physical realm as a Force spirit in death, simple truths. He was weaker than his Prime self in ROTS, lets move on.

Obi Wan aint Gohan, he'd be about the same as he was in ROTS except he'd know how to become a Force Ghost... Look at Count Dooku and Yoda, they were able to move around like 20 year olds due to keeping in practice with the Force

^ Well Dooku's not just around the same age, or just a little older. He's decades older. And it's not just him. Windu is about the same age as Old Ben. Palaptine was around the same age back in TPM, let alone any of the later films.

So age is not a reason to be weaker. These guys generally get more powerful with age. The only excuse is if he's out of practice. But will see if the new Canon goes with that. It won't be the case though if he faces Maul in Rebels, and if they do solo Kenobi spin off films based in that time period.

im not disagreeing with that, in fact I think i pretty much said just that; age doesnt matter, its your practice with the Force...and the fact that your movie was made in 1977...that affects your ability to be a badass force user 😮‍💨

Originally posted by relentless1
im not disagreeing with that, in fact I think i pretty much said that

Sorry my arrow was pointed at Ziggy's comment.

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
It's pretty easy to see why Obi Wan became weaker during his exile. Without practice or Jedi resources to improve himself including other members to practice with, all he's really doing is getting Older. Conflating Dooku's personal experiences with his is a faulty comparison because of the severe difference in environment, their personal goals and the fact that Dooku might just be more powerful than Kenobi. I'm sure if Ben did take up the time to become more masterful with his use of the Force, he might not of degraded so badly, but it wasn't in his best interest, his goal was to ascend to past the physical realm as a Force spirit in death, simple truths. He was weaker than his Prime self in ROTS, lets move on.
Another poster decimating D. Thor's pleas for help. Dooku isn't Kenobi and Dumb Thor just doesn't get it. Their experiences aren't the same nor is their force power but he pretends they are identical twins. He's hopelessly stupid.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
We are discussing if Kenobi improves, not if he deteriorates.
I think he's trying to say that Rebels Ahsoka is > Any version of Kenobi.

Thanks for explaining to me, I had no idea. Who would presume Beni to be a pathetic wanker?

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