Originally posted by darthbane77
They're all pretty much equals tbh, Valkorion's advantage is his spirit abilities. Luke will probably win this initially, but he'll be weak by the end; then spirit Valk shows up and kills him.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
no resurrection
Originally posted by UrsumelesSidious' spirit abilities are childish compared to Valkorion's lol. I have no doubt Luke would be able to defeat Valk under normal circumstances (albeit with immense difficulty), but in this case Luke is weakened after having defeated Sidious and Valk's physical form; he simply wouldn't be strong enough to fight Valkorion a second time.
And...
...Palpatine could do that too
...IIRC, Luke has a spirit destroying technique
...Force Ghost Luke pwns 🙂
Originally posted by darthbane77
Sidious' spirit abilities are childish compared to Valkorion's lol. I have no doubt Luke would be able to defeat Valk under normal circumstances (albeit with immense difficulty), but in this case Luke is weakened after having defeated Sidious and Valk's physical form; he simply wouldn't be strong enough to fight Valkorion a second time.
Originally posted by UrsumelesBut Luke has never significantly effected his environment as a spirit, Valkorion has that power. So Luke becoming a spirit won't do anything as far as a fight goes. Sure the OP doesn't directly mention a resurrection, but these fights (unless otherwise stated) involve the characters in their primes with all known powers.
Nah.
No ressurection is stated in the OP.
But, if Valk comes back as spirit, then Luke could also come back as force ghost...
Originally posted by MythLordHave we ever seen a Jedi Spirit do anything to effect the environment like that before? To my knowledge we haven't, I was under the impression that was one of the things that made Dark Side and Light Side spirits different. Light spirits are "more powerful" because they're a part of the Force, which is essentially pure power. Dark Side spirits can alter their environment because they're still anchored to it, they're not one with the Force. Which is why they can change the world around them.
How come? The only reason Jedi don't abuse their power as Ghosts is because they don't need nor want to, but Jedi Ghosts are obviously capable of that, hence why both An'ya and Ben note they can become "far more powerful" than Vader.
Originally posted by darthbane77
Have we ever seen a Jedi Spirit do anything to effect the environment like that before? To my knowledge we haven't, I was under the impression that was one of the things that made Dark Side and Light Side spirits different. Light spirits are "more powerful" because they're a part of the Force, which is essentially pure power. Dark Side spirits can alter their environment because they're still anchored to it, they're not one with the Force. Which is why they can change the world around them.