Cassandra Nova vs WBH

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
In that case, as Superman was mentioned (not by me, btw...):

If a thread specifies OWAW Superman, can Abhi take the highest highs of 'normal' Superman, and exponentially draw the line? After all, by logic and common sense, if 'normal' Superman can do XYZ, then OWAW Supes should be capable of the same to the nth degree.

So imagine abhi gleefully rubbing his hands, and scan dumping normal Supes and his resistance to magic/telepathy/Kryptonite. The highest ever speed feats and strength feats, and then claiming that OWAW has that and more.

DoS Doomsday took an energy blast that tore a hole in reality. H/P Doomsday, therefore, can tank....I dunno, whatever it is but incredibly amped, lol.

Kuurth has, on paper, both the enchantments of Cyttorrak AND the Serpent. Am I allowed to take Juggy's highest showings, apply it to him?

Sodom Yat, has, on paper (lol), Kryptonian level physicals AND a GL ring AND the Ion entity. Shall I stack them up on each other, or am I restricted to what was actually shown on panel by the character?

Beast is another good example. On paper, he has had several upgrades. So shall I take his highest showings back when he was human/ape level, and draw a line upwards? Or am I forced to actually use what is depicted?

Writers and artists don't care for these battleboards, lol. They don't care that back in 1994, character XYZ performed such and such a feat, so they should be able to do that same feat but better.

We care. and we have the distinctions, however. And if a thread specifies WBH, then it should be WBH. Not using Savage feats, especially if it is contradicted by WWH feats, say.

So if I made a thread of OWAW Superman vs Jean Grey and said Jean wins easy 10/10 via telepathy, how would you counter it? Superman during OWAW didn't encounter any telepathy during the story, so how would you counter my argument?

Originally posted by carver9
So if I made a thread of OWAW Superman vs Jean Grey and said Jean wins easy 10/10 via telepathy, how would you counter it? Superman during OWAW didn't encounter any telepathy during the story, so how would you counter my argument?

WHAT DID I TELL YOU ABOUT INCLUDING SUPERMAN IN YOUR WAR?!!!!!!

I'LL BREAK YOU, GAMMITE!!!!

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Green scar is WBH holding himself back to the point that his walking around strength (base) is what enraged versions of Savage/Bannerless Hulk showed. All of his abilities are amplified including healing and of course TP resistance due to rage

My point is that if an attack is shown to be successful against WWH, one cannot use Savage feats to argue WBH will be resistant.

Originally posted by carver9
So if I made a thread of OWAW Superman vs Jean Grey and said Jean wins easy 10/10 via telepathy, how would you counter it? Superman during OWAW didn't encounter any telepathy during the story, so how would you counter my argument?

I would use normal Superman being resistant to it, and claim OWAW is 10,000 times more resistant /faster and will just stand there and laugh.

You will then counter with a scan of a sun dipped (not as long as OWAW) Superman struggling against telepathy (so, stronger than normal Superman, but weaker than OWAW. Pretend such a scan exists).

What should I do then?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Lol, we've been talking often about you, dmills. Welcome back.

Hey man, long time no see.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I would use normal Superman being resistant to it, and claim OWAW is 10,000 times more resistant /faster and will just stand there and laugh.

You will then counter with a scan of a sun dipped (not as long as OWAW) Superman struggling against telepathy (so, stronger than normal Superman, but weaker than OWAW. Pretend such a scan exists).

What should I do then?

Was OWAW Superman stronger or did he just stop holding back per KMC? And you'll use scans outside of OWAW to aid in an argument for Superman? Why? I thought you separate the story from other Superman titles?

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
[B]WHAT DID I TELL YOU ABOUT INCLUDING SUPERMAN IN YOUR WAR?!!!!!!

I'LL BREAK YOU, GAMMITE!!!! [/B]

😂

Let's do the BZ.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Let's do the BZ.

At this point you're talking to yourself.

Okay, I guess its not happening then.

Just as well I suppose. I have no clue how to get my hands on comics with all the torrent sites down.

I think Nova wins, I'll make my case when I get home from work.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Okay, I guess its not happening then.

Just as well I suppose. I have no clue how to get my hands on comics with all the torrent sites down.

I think Nova wins, I'll make my case when I get home from work.

Try it.

Originally posted by carver9
Was OWAW Superman stronger or did he just stop holding back per KMC? And you'll use scans outside of OWAW to aid in an argument for Superman? Why? I thought you separate the story from other Superman titles?

I would do it, to show how illogical your position is.

Glad you can see the irony.

Also, answer the q. Would you allow me to use scans of a weaker character to support an argument for the strongest ever character, when it is directly contradicted by the second strongest level of said character?

IOW, using level 3 to argue for level 1, when level 2 has opposrie showings

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I would do it, to show how illogical your position is.

Glad you can see the irony.

Also, answer the q. Would you allow me to use scans of a weaker character to support an argument for the strongest ever character, when it is directly contradicted by the second strongest level of said character?

IOW, using level 3 to argue for level 1, when level 2 has opposrie showings

I'm not arguing against any of this...I'm asking you a question. I'm asking, how would you counter my argument on Jean Grey mind killing OWAW Superman with ease. Hell, how could you counter her stomping Sun Dipped Superman with a mind whammy? Would you give her a 10/10 because of this? You also want to look at OWAW Superman threads. Start with this one. A lot of the arguments in the thread involved showings of Superman that happened OUTSIDE of OWAW even though the thread was OWAW Superman against Odin.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=622559&highlight="OWAW+Superman+vs

Exactly.

Strange how your mind is fixated on Supes, but ok.

Now, what would happen if there existed a scan of a sun dipped Superman (stronger than normal, weaker than OWAW...I.e only sundipped for one minute or something) being mind raped?

Would you allow me to use normal Superman's feats of resisting TP, as proof that OWAW tanks Jean?

Answer: Of course you wouldn't. Feats take precedence, right?

Dance around the q all day if you want. But we both know, if there existed such a showing, you'd post it.