Dr. Doom Vs Martian Manhunter

Started by DarkSaint854 pages

Because they're different.

One is a defence against control, and against people entering your mind, to stop illusions....

Whereas MM is not attempting any finesse, any control. Just a mind bolt.

A way of thinking about it, is in the One Punch anime....when Genos and Saitama were about to storm the secret labs. They had prepared all many of traps from floor one all the way to floor eight.

Genos just blasted the entire building away.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
He was dazed cause of the mystic flames and he only put them out cause Iron man begged him to

Am I misremembering?

I remember Sentry flying in and tearing doom apart as they were sent back in time.

Then Doom hits him with a purple bolt and Iron Man tells Doom that he better stop unless he wants Sentry to kill him.

Naturally Doom stopped, like a *****.

Tony said something like he'd kill Doom, but Sentry was a bit too busy getting owned by him to make good on that threat, so I think he was saying whatever he could to get Doom to stop hurting him.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Because they're different.

One is a defence against control, and against people entering your mind, to stop illusions....

Whereas MM is not attempting any finesse, any control. Just a mind bolt.

Eh...that's kinda like building a house with the most top of the line security but the walls are made of cardboard. It wouldn't make much sense to not defend against the most basic form of mental attack first.

Originally posted by JayDaDon
Eh...that's kinda like building a house with the most top of the line security but the walls are made of cardboard. It wouldn't make much sense to not defend against the most basic form of mental attack first.

What do you mean?

Do you have any examples of people resisting psychic bolts?

The most basic forms of "mental attack" is being controlled or having your mind read.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Also, speedblitz etc.

The mind thing is interesting, yeah, but hardly a deciding factor.

Originally posted by JayDaDon
Tony said something like he'd kill Doom, but Sentry was a bit too busy getting owned by him to make good on that threat, so I think he was saying whatever he could to get Doom to stop hurting him.

Eh...that's kinda like building a house with the most top of the line security but the walls are made of cardboard. It wouldn't make much sense to not defend against the most basic form of mental attack first.

Exactly.

Build a house, with layers upon layers of traps. Booby trapped doors. Laser trip wires. Trained attack dogs. Crocodiles in a moat surrounding the house, with 25 ft walls. Barbed wire, pressure sensors, airtight rooms that release nerve gas.

And I drop a bunker buster on it.

Show me MM "bolting" anyone and not fainting afterwards 😂

Show me Doom easily stomping Superman level characters in no prep no BFR fights that dont allow PIS. 😂

MM is not a Superman level character.

N52 J'onn hasn't fainted as much as pre 52 J'onn ....

I forget sometimes you arent a good debater. Thanks for reminding me.

vin

DC telepaths are absolute garbage.

There's always some idiotic hyperbole about scanning universes and blah blah, but when it gets down to it they're ****ing trash.

Correct...

Originally posted by krisblaze
DC telepaths are absolute garbage.

There's always some idiotic hyperbole about scanning universes and blah blah, but when it gets down to it they're ****ing trash.


Good thing thats not a huge issue here. 👆

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
N52 J'onn hasn't fainted as much as pre 52 J'onn ....

Thats not real confidence inspiring for the MM side.

Also, why all the Sentry comparisons here? The Sentry is a whole nother beast compared to Martian Manjobber. As for the mental blast, why hasent anybody in Marvel tried such an attempt? I dont think it would work, but it may.

Originally posted by krisblaze
What do you mean?

Do you have any examples of people resisting psychic bolts?

The most basic forms of "mental attack" is being controlled or having your mind read.

Control or reading to me is like working a brain with a scalpel while bolts are just hitting it with a hammer. Like I said earlier, if its a magical defense i say its a wash anyway as telepathy vs magic likely wont end well for telepathy.

I dont see why not, but i can see why you're saying it.

Originally posted by JayDaDon
Control or reading to me is like working a brain with a scalpel while bolts are just hitting it with a hammer. Like I said earlier, if its a magical defense i say its a wash anyway as telepathy vs magic likely wont end well for telepathy.

How so?

Selene is resitant to magic and immune to being controlled, but can still be hit by bolts. Same with Xavier and Thanos.

Doom's resistance seems to be mainly derived from his willpower anyway, which is well and good against mindcontrol and reading, not so much against offensive stuff.