Re: When does the Banite line surpass...
Originally posted by The Ellimist
1. Obi Wan
Bane.
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2. Ludo Kreesh
Bane.
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3. Naga Sadow
Bane.
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4. Marka Ragnos
Bane, or Zannah.
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5. Darth Tyranus
Bane, or Zannah.
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6. KotOR Revan
Bane.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
7. Darth Vader
Bane, or Zannah.
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8. Darth Nihilus
Ehhhh... Tricky.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
9. novel Vitiate
Teneb, or Hego.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
10. SWTOR Vitiate
Plagueis.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
11. Valkorion
Palpatine.
Originally posted by SunRazer
Canonically ahead of Brotherhood of the Sith, which my pinky is.Outweighing the nexus doesn't justify being above Vader whatsoever.
So far, there's no proof it's just the Brotherhood Sith; it's all past Sith in general. Even disregarding that, there's a quote that says PoD Bane is the most powerful Sith in centuries, which puts him above Rivan(who's holocron was causing tremours in the Force and re-awakening city-wide nexuses), Odion(who can mentally influence dozens of Sith, has the Force reserves to survive getting burned alive), Daiman(who can kill Sith with lightning), Kaox Krul(who pulls a Darth Maul and leaves behind a potent nexus near a lake he was fighting on), etc.
And why not? I don't recall Vader being more potent than a planet-razing source of power.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Where does it say he was more powerful than the entire planetary nexus combined?
Cognus notes a subdued trace of Bane's presence is the darkest/most potent thing she's ever sensed, and she was sensing the nexus of Ambria prior to that.
Originally posted by MythLordYou're trolling right?
Outweighing a planetary nexus, and being canonically ahead of past Sith impresses me more than most of Vader's feats and hype, tbh.However, I'm uncertain about Bane's and Zannah's placing lately. Might need to think on it.
Originally posted by MythLordHow does that put him above Vader in the slightest? 😕
Even disregarding that, there's a quote that says PoD Bane is the most powerful Sith in centuries, which puts him above Rivan(who's holocron was causing tremours in the Force and re-awakening city-wide nexuses), Odion(who can mentally influence dozens of Sith, has the Force reserves to survive getting burned alive), Daiman(who can kill Sith with lightning), Kaox Krul(who pulls a Darth Maul and leaves behind a potent nexus near a lake he was fighting on), etc.
Who cares about tremors in the Force? Savage going to meet Maul caused tremors. Malak approaching the Leivathan generated similar reverberations. As for holocrons, Naga Sadow's holocron alone was capable of killing Force sensitives on its own merits. Rivan's nothing special.
Surviving being burnt alive is more than just Force reserves, and Odion's purported TP feat is worse than Kaan's, whom we already know Bane to be stronger than.
Daiman can kill Sith with Lightning? Vader's far more powerful than beings who can disintegrate Inquisitors.
Kaox Krul can pull off a Maw, big deal.
Vader's infinitely beyond any of that. And you're doing Bane a disservice by scaling him off such routine showings as opposed to something better.
Also, Ellimist is kind of right regarding the nexus.
Re: When does the Banite line surpass...
Originally posted by The Ellimist
In overall combative ability:1. Obi Wan
2. Ludo Kreesh
3. Naga Sadow
4. Marka Ragnos
5. Darth Tyranus
6. KotOR Revan
7. Darth Vader
8. Darth Nihilus
9. novel Vitiate
10. SWTOR Vitiate
11. Valkorion
1. Bane
2. Bane
3. Bane
4. Bane
5. Zannah
6. Cognus(?)
7. Zannah
8. Tenebrous(?)
9. Bane
10. Tenebrous(?)
11. Plagueis
Originally posted by The Ellimist
I'd interpret that to mean that Bane's signature is more concentrated than the nexus, which is spread across an entire planet. It's not like she's comparing him to, say, the totality of all Force signatures she can ever sense.
Originally posted by EmperordmbThe energy that devastated the planet, devastated the planet, was was left was a residue. 😬
When spread out across an entire planet it devastated all life on said planet, and it was concentrated to a single lake, so even if you are talking concentration it's still pretty damn insanely concentrated, especially considering it was POD Bane, and an incarnation of Zannah that a non-orbalisk ROT Bane could've killed by snapping her neck with TK.
Originally posted by MythLordVader died a lightsider. What nexus did Bane leave when he died?
I dunno... I am curious; did Vader ever actually leave that massive a nexus? I recall his clone causing a small nexus ala Maul, and him leaving a small nexus on his burial site. That's about it.