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Originally posted by Beniboybling
The energy that devastated the planet, devastated the planet, was was left was a residue. 😬Vader died a lightsider. What nexus did Bane leave when he died?

This residue was enough to twist any life there from that point on... which is more than I can say for say Lehon or Dxun.

Do you have a source on that? I thought all the life was devastated. mmm

Originally posted by MythLord
I dunno... I am curious; did Vader ever actually leave that massive a nexus? I recall his clone causing a small nexus ala Maul, and him leaving a small nexus on his burial site. That's about it.

Since he died a lightsider, his suit alone left a mini-nexus, not the totality of his dark side presence. I also recall his castle on Vjun being a potent nexus, presumingly from Vader's prolonged presence. The castle was such a powerful nexus that it's power could be felt from orbit, and Tavion thought it power worthy enough to be drained to resurrect the great Marka Ragnos.

And apparently Luke considered Bespin a nexus of power too btw. Considering the only major thing to happen there with involved Vader one could say Vader left a nexus there too?

It's plausible and logical, yes.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
You're gonna have to explain that one. 🙂

If a bunch of high tier fodder were walking through his Force Lightning Storm, I'm pretty sure most Bane/Dooku tiers would have no issue with that. He is then helpless in a melee.

Revan was just an idiot when he threw his lightsaber aside.

Originally posted by Azronger
If a bunch of high tier fodder were walking through his Force Lightning Storm, I'm pretty sure most Bane/Dooku tiers would have no issue with that. He is then helpless in a melee.

Revan was just an idiot when he threw his lightsaber aside.

Vitiate wasn't trying to kill them, hence why they weren't fried instantly, lol. I'm not sure how Vitiate easily defeating five (if you count Kira) of the most powerful Jedi in the galaxy while holding back is a mark against him.

Looking at the Revan Novel, we see Nyriss's charged lightning storm being capable of unleashing greater power than what someone like Dooku has been shown to unleash with his lightning, (being able to "incinerate" Meetra and Scourge, and instantly ashing herself, even while having erected a force barrier,) and Revan was able to "easily" deflect such an attack. If someone like Dooku tried what Revan was able to do easily, he would have been completely incinerated. When Revan goes up against Vitiate, however, the former is instantaneously overwhelmed by Vitiate's full power lightning storm. Revan threw away his lightsaber because, quite frankly, it wouldn't have done shit against Vitiate's attack.

Then we've got the various claims of Vitiate's power from numerous sources in SOR stating that the Dread Masters are insignificant compared to Vitiate, that Vitiate is far more powerful than Revan or anyone else in the Galaxy, etc.

That's a huge gap of power between someone like Dooku and someone like Vitiate, lol.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
If someone like Dooku tried what Revan was able to do easily, he would have been completely incinerated.
Lmao.

Originally posted by SunRazer
"Darth Plagueis was the most powerful Sith Lord who ever lived..."
Ah OK, I remember that. I don't really take back cover blurbs into consideration if they don;t have feats that prove it. So as far as I'm concerned, Plagueis is definitely up there; but it's safe to say (for a lot of people anyway) that at least Vitiate was > Plagueis.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Lmao.

You think Dooku could have barehanded Nyriss's FLS and redirected it back at her?

Probably, given he's more powerful than her. He certainly wouldn't have been incinerated, lawls.

Fair enough on him not necessarily getting incinerated, but IMO he wouldn't be able to barehand deflect it at all, much less with ease like Revan did.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Do you have a source on that? I thought all the life was devastated. mmm

Actually come to think of it, the Huntress would've perceived the obelisk in her visions too, which is where all the dark side energy was contained before it was released on the planet, so how residuey it was doesn't even matter, and the concentration of the obelisk would've been even greater than Lake Naath.

Wait her experience of Ambria consisted of a vision? Lmao.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Fair enough on him not necessarily getting incinerated, but IMO he wouldn't be able to barehand deflect it at all, much less with ease like Revan did.

He deflected the lightning Yoda sent at him which presumably would have been more powerful then the lightning Dooku sent at Yoda.

Skillz, source for your claim that Vitiate was holding back?

1-7 - All sub Tenebrous
8-10 - All sub Plagueis
11 - Sub Sidious

Originally posted by darthbane77
Ah OK, I remember that. I don't really take back cover blurbs into consideration if they don;t have feats that prove it. So as far as I'm concerned, Plagueis is definitely up there; but it's safe to say (for a lot of people anyway) that at least Vitiate was > Plagueis.

I have the same policy. In regards to Plaguies though I view his feat of unbalancing the Force as ambiguous enough that it can be used to place him above Vitiate.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Skillz, source for your claim that Vitiate was holding back?

That he evidently didn't want to kill them. We've seen what Vitiate does to people he really wants to destroy, (Arcann, Revan, those 2 Dark Councils, Marr, etc). The impressiveness lying in the fact that even while holding back/making sure not to kill them, he still incapacitated them, "easily."

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
That he evidently didn't want to kill them. We've seen what Vitiate does to people he really wants to destroy, (Arcann, Revan, those 2 Dark Councils, Marr, etc). The impressiveness lying in the fact that even while holding back/making sure not to kill them, he still incapacitated them, "easily."

Ehhhh ok. I mean, Sidious didn't want to kill Maul, but still had him throbbing on the ground with his lightning. He didn't blunt his lightning to let Maul walk through it because he didn't want to risk killing him or something.