Full potential suit Vader

Started by Rebel952 pages

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Ah, ok. I mean, the RotS novelization is still canon; not sure if Lucas's musings are.

I don't believe they are

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Several sources say Sidious was afraid of Vader's potential and he could've equaled him. 80% is not his potential.

Forgot about that 👆

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Several sources say Sidious was afraid of Vader's potential and he could've equaled him. 80% is not his potential.

Sheev is a paranoid megalomaniac, though. I'd take Lucas' word over Sidious' paranoia.

Originally posted by Rebel95
I don't believe they are
They're canon to Legends.

Oh; Lucas' musings. Yeah; that basically amounts to authorial intent (which was thrown out the window w/ the new Canon).

Originally posted by MythLord
Sheev is a paranoid megalomaniac, though. I'd take Lucas' word over Sidious' paranoia.

Except you aren't taking Lucas' word, you are reading into it.

Difference.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Except you aren't taking Lucas' word, you are reading into it.

Difference.

Unless the RotS, quadriplegic amputee, Vader is 4/5s of Vader then I'm not reading into it.

Yes you do. IIrc he's talking in future stance when saying Anakin could've been 200% of Sidious and then switches to present when saying Vader is 80%.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Yes you do. IIrc he's talking in future stance when saying Anakin could've been 200% of Sidious and then switches to present when saying Vader [b]is 80%. [/B]

That's how I interpreted it

Exactly.

The text specifically says "now he's 80%". "He's" as in Vader -- if he was talking about potential, the correct word sequence would have been "it's now 80%" or something analogous to that.

Originally posted by MythLord
Unless the RotS, quadriplegic amputee, Vader is 4/5s of Vader then I'm not reading into it.
4/10 of full-power Anakin; 4/5 of Sidious.

Nothing is said of Sidious' potential. Or Vader's.

Originally posted by darthbane77
Sidious theorized that his limits were only mental, that had Vader owned up to what he did and embraced it that he could have unlocked his full potential again. Not sure if I agree with his theory or not, but it is something to consider.
I agree with this theory especially considering advanced applications of force heal and the existence of technology that allows them to clone entire bodies. You mean to tell me that they could not have produced Vader a fresh set of arms and legs just by collecting his tissue samples? It's a massive hole in the story. I prefer the mental block explanation because of this.

As such, a full potential Vader rag dolls 10 DE Palpatines simultaneously while making a sandwich and reading a magazine at the same time.

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Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Yes you do. IIrc he's talking in future stance when saying Anakin could've been 200% of Sidious and then switches to present when saying Vader [b]is 80%. [/B]

He's referring to Vader right after Mustafar, though. I find it hard to believe that quadriplegic is actually touching the heel of Sidious' boot. And the same person who said Vader is 4/5s of Palpatine also noted Vader is closer to Dooku or Maul than he is to Sheev.

Of course, if you wanna say it refers to power, the quote also notes Vader lost Anakin's abilities and use of the Force, which means Anakin is > Vader, but I know the Vader brigade won't admit that.

Aren't there also quotes saying that he could never have matched Sidious ever again after Mustafar?

Yeah. Sidious was just being a paranoid numbskull. I mean, the guy thought Dooku and Asajj together can overthrow him; I guess Tyranus and Ventress > Sidious now?

In fairness, that's just TCW's stupidity, but yeah.