Midnighter Vs Mr. X

Originally posted by cdtm
You really think Mids "wanted" to get shot, though?

If he was merely, say, Frank Castle level stat wise, do you think his game against Deadshot would've played out that way?

Majn point being, in a either/or scenario, there's only so far you can rig things. The battle computer wouldn't improve his odds on a coin toss, or a dice roll. 😉

He would, if it means getting close enough to break his wrists
..he has a high tolerance to pain, and a pretty good HF on top.

Agree on the coin toss or dice roll. Unless there was a way to cheat..but in pure probability? I agree, nothing he can do.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Again, he was using his Hypnos implants. They didn't backfire on him...the God Garden shut them down.

Once they were offline, Mids curbed him. Do you even read, brah?

X does not have Hypnos implants. Not sure why you posted them.

Why didn't his battle computer counter the tactic though.?

Yeah, Mr. X doesn't have a similar attack that I know of.

Originally posted by carver9
Why didn't his battle computer counter the tactic though.?

Question: Do you know what Hypnos does? Clue: Its in the name.

Originally posted by cdtm
Aim dodging. Batman does it all the time without getting hit.

I have a nicer scan somewhere of his speed. Its quite a cool little feat.

Midnighter dies. He was taken out by a single hit from Grifter, with ease. Grifter is no Mr.X AND Mr.X read minds as well. Mr. X 10/10.

Grifters physicals' are way above X 🙂.

That TK is amazing! Scans of X using a TK punch 🙂

Btw, have you come to a conclusion as to what Hypnos does?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Grifters physicals' are way above X 🙂.

That TK is amazing! Scans of X using a TK punch 🙂

Btw, have you come to a conclusion as to what Hypnos does?

How much force did Grifter use in his punch?

He does have amazing tk. Too bad he wasn't trying to kill Mids. Why are you asking me if X have TK. Are you suggesting Grifter is more skilled than X? Are you also suggesting that X can't hurt Mids?

Have you come to the conclusion that the Battle computer isn't 100% accurate like you want it to be?

Originally posted by carver9
How much force did Grifter use in his punch?

He does have amazing tk. Too bad he wasn't trying to kill Mids. Why are you asking me if X have TK. Are you suggesting Grifter is more skilled than X? Are you also suggesting that X can't hurt Mids?

Have you come to the conclusion that the Battle computer isn't 100% accurate like you want it to be?

Enough to stagger Apollo earlier....or at least, he has enough to lift a whole forest including boulders, and dump it on someone.

Lol, because X cannot replicate a TK punch.

Have you even read any issues?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Enough to stagger Apollo earlier....or at least, he has enough to lift a whole forest including boulders, and dump it on someone.

Lol, because X cannot replicate a TK punch.

Have you even read any issues?

Lol...Guess what Batman has done?

😂 are you suggesting Grifter hit him with forest level power? You're funny. What happened to that Battle computer? It should've stopped him from even being hit, right?

X doesn't need to replicate it. A good stab will suffice.

Then tell me, if you can, what percentage of his power he held back.

We know what his max can do.

What level did he almost KO Mids with? 50%? 70%? 10%? Scans, please.

I like how you've moved on from Grayson and Afterthought, though. Conceded, eh? Have you read the issues, then?

TK punches are activated at the speed of thought. When X can attack at the speed of thought, call me.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Then tell me, if you can, what percentage of his power he held back.

We know what his max can do.

What level did he almost KO Mids with? 50%? 70%? 10%? Scans, please.

I like how you've moved on from Grayson and Afterthought, though. Conceded, eh? Have you read the issues, then?

TK punches are activated at the speed of thought. When X can attack at the speed of thought, call me.

He held back percentage. That's like me asking you the percentage Hulk used against Spiderman or the percentage Superman used against Batman. I'm sure you wouldn't think a 100%, would you.

He didn't hit him with his max.

I will bring up Afterthought and Dick when I feel the time is necessary.

OK, i need you to prove that was a speed of thought attack.

Originally posted by carver9
He held back percentage. That's like me asking you the percentage Hulk used against Spiderman or the percentage Superman used against Batman. I'm sure you wouldn't think a 100%, would you.

He didn't hit him with his max.

I will bring up Afterthought and Dick when I feel the time is necessary.

OK, i need you to prove that was a speed of thought attack.

Lol. So IOW, you have no idea. So its moot.

When you've read the issues, IOW.

Telekinesis. Tele. From the word, Telos. As of the mind.

Its a mental attack boyo 🙂. Read the issue. It may even explain things for you.

Telekinesis occurs at the speed of thought.

Originally posted by carver9
Because he is proud of being a troll.

Didn't you already accuse Zack of being a troll? For making what you say is a spite thread?

False accusations. Dangerous indeed.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol. So IOW, you have no idea. So its moot.

When you've read the issues, IOW.

Telekinesis. Tele. From the word, Telos. As of the mind.

Its a mental attack boyo 🙂. Read the issue. It may even explain things for you.

Telekinesis occurs at the speed of thought.

No, you have no idea. Prove that he hit him with forest level power.

😂 ...just because telekinesis is being used doesn't mean that it was a speed of thought attack. Grifter isn't that fast. That's like me saying Daredevil is faster than thought because he dodge Psylocke TK blade. Reaching is your best friend.

Doesn't mean it was a faster than thought swing. He just wrapped his hand in TK...reacher.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Didn't you already accuse Zack of being a troll? For making what you say is a spite thread?

False accusations. Dangerous indeed.

Mr. X stomps.

Originally posted by carver9
No, you have no idea. Prove that he hit him with forest level power.

😂 ...just because telekinesis is being used doesn't mean that it was a speed of thought attack. Grifter isn't that fast. That's like me saying Daredevil is faster than thought because he dodge Psylocke TK blade. Reaching is your best friend.

Doesn't mean it was a faster than thought swing. He just wrapped his hand in TK...reacher.

Proof he just wrapped his hand in TK? Scans.

Also, onus is not on me. I'm the one saying that we have no idea of how powerful the punch was, only that Grifter is capable of stunning Apollo (in the same scan you posted) and is capable of uprooting entire areas.

If someone tanked a punch from WWH, say, would it not be a feat?

Originally posted by carver9
Midnighter dies. He was taken out by a single hit from Grifter, with ease. Grifter is no Mr.X AND Mr.X read minds as well. Mr. X 10/10.

Call me when X can do this to people:
http://i.imgur.com/2qY0BzS.jpg

It wasn't just a physical attack Grifter did. PLUS, basic knowledge.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Call me when X can do this to people:
http://i.imgur.com/2qY0BzS.jpg

It wasn't just a physical attack Grifter did. PLUS, basic knowledge.

I don't get what you're trying to post here. Grifter used his TK to one shot midnighter. He used his TK here and the guy is still standing. Like I said, if Grifter can drop Midnighter in a single hit, so can Mr.X.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Proof he just wrapped his hand in TK? Scans.

Also, onus is not on me. I'm the one saying that we have no idea of how powerful the punch was, only that Grifter is capable of stunning Apollo (in the same scan you posted) and is capable of uprooting entire areas.

If someone tanked a punch from WWH, say, would it not be a feat?

It's right there in the scan. Look at it.

Lol...you said Grifter hit him with forest level power. That's a lie just like it is a lie that WWH punched Beast with planetary level power. Knocking Apollo back isn't stunning him. Also, what happened to that Battle computer assisting Midnighter?

If someone tanked an all out punch from WWH, yes, I would be impressed but Beast, Strong Guy, Angel along with any other weak level durability character surviving WWH doesn't mean they survived his planetary power

😂