Post Nathema Revan vs. Valkorion

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
What?

"With shaking fingers, he took the old man's bony shoulders in his hands and gripped them tight. The Sith lightning spread to engulf the two of them, fueled by both their desperations. The Emperor tipped back his head and howled in lascivious pain. Darkness threatened to envelop the apprentice's mind, but he clutched to consciousness with feverish will. He had to see this through. He had to."

Lmfao.

Yeah; as I said, he had to advance against Palpatine's lightning to have grabbed him that way.

Lmfao. No.
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The rule is that you can't use a defensive Force attack against the offensive Force attack if it is already being applied to you.

And that's not a rule I made up. Refer to the sourcebooks and the ROTSJN. 👆

So if you catch someone off guard with telekinesis, you could proceed to keep them pinned in place in perpetuity, or to snap their necks with a gesture?

Citation needed ofc

Yeah; as I said, he had to advance against Palpatine's lightning to have grabbed him that way.

Citation needed ofc

-- Roleplaying Game, Second Edition

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-- Tales of the Jedi Sourcebook

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"A rush of dark power lifted Obi-Wan off his feet and choked the air from his lungs. He reached for the Force to counter Dooku, but the attack had been too sudden."
-- Revenge of the Sith: Junior Novelization

So if you catch someone off guard with telekinesis, you could proceed to keep them pinned in place in perpetuity, or to snap their necks with a gesture?

Refer to the Darth Bane novels and the Shadow of Revan final fight for that.

But you couldn't use a Force barrier to defend yourself after the attack already happened, yeah.

Now note that such an outburst of Force energy wouldn't work on a power like Force lightning. I don't see any possible direct defense for it once the power already began.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I can't really grasp how members think they can throw away a feat under the basis they don't like it or think it's not what the author meant to convey.

It happened. It's canon. Like, I can't stress that enough.

Lmfao, no. Get your LGBT, ISIS-supporting filth out of my thread. Disgusting.

Oh dry those tears, it's not my problem no one agrees with your retarded nonsense.

Palpatine can use Force barrier while he uses lightning, lol. He did so in his fight against Yoda.

Originally posted by Azronger
Palpatine can use Force barrier while he uses lightning, lol. He did so in his fight against Yoda.

Read what I argue before you post.

He can't use a Force barrier to resist lightning that is already hitting him.

I never said he can't use a Force barrier and lightning simultaneously.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
He only took two steps, so he was blatantly extremely close.

Um, what?

It the game version it takes Galen 25 seconds to grab Sidious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HblR0sMoh3s, 21:30

In the novel Galen has an exchange with Rahm before he grabs onto Sidious and Galen is still able to move forward in the interval.

"The pain was incredible, searing every nerve back to its individual cells, skewering each of them on white-hot needles. He had never before felt anything like this. He wanted to recoil from the source, to curl into a ball and let unconsciousness take the pain away, but somehow he stayed standing, seeing the world through a crackling blue light, and even took a step toward the Emperor.

"Go!" he hissed at Kota. "Hurry!"

The general hesitated only for a moment. He, too, had seen a glimpse of the future, the apprentice remembered. He knew that it came down to a simple choice: him and the Rebels or the apprentice and darkness forever. Gathering up the Rebels, Kola ushered them toward the descending ship.

Another staggering, painful step and the Emperor was within the apprentice's reach. With shaking fingers, he took the old man's bony shoulders in his hands and gripped them tight." - The Force Unleashed.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
"The pain was incredible, searing every nerve back to its individual cells, skewering each of them on white-hot needles. He had never before felt anything like this. He wanted to recoil from the source, to curl into a ball and let unconsciousness take the pain away, but somehow he stayed standing, seeing the world through a crackling blue light, and even took a step toward the Emperor.

"Go!" he hissed at Kota. "Hurry!"

The general hesitated only for a moment. He, too, had seen a glimpse of the future, the apprentice remembered. He knew that it came down to a simple choice: him and the Rebels or the apprentice and darkness forever. Gathering up the Rebels, Kola ushered them toward the descending ship.

Another staggering, painful step and the Emperor was within the apprentice's reach. With shaking fingers, he took the old man's bony shoulders in his hands and gripped them tight." - The Force Unleashed.

Two steps. 👆

I'm aware. I'm simply noting that the amount of time it took for Galen to move forward against the lightning is left unspecified.

He moves about as much in the cutscene and it takes around 25 seconds in that iteration. Regardless Sidious is certainly capable or ramping up his lightning in the interim while Galen and Rahm are having their exchange.

Galen did better against Sidious Lightning than Revan against a weaker Vitiate's 🙂

Has nothing to do with my point.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Has nothing to do with my point.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
There's an unprecedented difference between Revan/Vitiate and Galen/Sidious.

What was that? 🙂

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Has nothing to do with my point.

Those are you own words quoted from the end of the first page. It's the entire point of the conversation dumbass. 🙂

No?

Yes. 🙂

... what?

I know it can be confusing Ant but I'll try to put this as simple as I'm able.

You stated that there is a vast difference between Galen's performance against Sidious and Revan's performance against Vitiate on the first page of this thread as the post that spawned this discussion.

Skillz points out that Galen does better against Sidious then Revan did against Vitiate.

You say that's not your point when that's the entire point of the conversation.

You then pretend ( I hope ) to be ignorant of this fact and go "Ah duuuuuuuuuuuh." As you act ( again I can only hope you're pretending to be this retarded ) like you don't know what I'm talking about.

I never even responded to Skillz, lmfao. I said the amount of time Marek needed to handle Vitiate isn't my point to you.

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