I honestly think Ryans not that bad of a Senator. The speaker thing was heaped on him. IMO he's the textbook orthodox conservative..trump is the voice of a party of his own creation. Hes going to wreck the gop which sucks because some of those guys/gals are good. Ryan really has no choice but to distance himself and await the fallout. He's kind of has his back against the wall because millions of Americans voted for a guy that many politicains view as cancerous he cant openly diss him but he also cant really, truly support him if/when he crashes.
Originally posted by Its2016
Trump wrecking he gop is bad? Ryan is good because he appeals to liberals? Sin, i know your politics to a certain degree, but youre actually doing the informed a favour when you post. No offense.
He's married to a liberal democrat. He is no conservative, that's why liberals love him.
He's a turncoat fake republican. So glad Trump is firing him.
Originally posted by Its2016
Trump wrecking he gop is bad? Ryan is good because he appeals to liberals? Sin, i know your politics to a certain degree, but youre actually doing the informed a favour when you post. No offense.
yes wrecking the gop is bad. A "republican" (I use quotes cuz Trump isn't a true elephant) president with the backing of a republican congress could get some serious shit done. Change isn't a bad thing as long as its for the greater good. If elected he couldn't possibly hope to get anything after the gop lose all those seats.
And since when is appealing to the other side a negative? that's the point of democracy...to benefit all, not a chosen few
Originally posted by Sin I AMyoure deluded. Trump is a true republican and your idea of a "true republican" would appeal to Paul ryan, gary johnson jeb bush, etc.
yes wrecking the gop is bad. A "republican" (I use quotes cuz Trump isn't a true elephant) president with the backing of a republican congress could get some serious shit done. Change isn't a bad thing as long as its for the greater good. If elected he couldn't possibly hope to get anything after the gop lose all those seats.And since when is appealing to the other side a negative? that's the point of democracy...to benefit all, not a chosen few
Theyre rinos.
Originally posted by Its2016
youre deluded. Trump is a true republican and your idea of a "true republican" would appeal to Paul ryan, gary johnson jeb bush, etc.Theyre rinos.
Im a lot of things but delusion isn't one of them. Agree to disagree. Trump is a populist that appeals to his "audience"..if anything he's an authoritarian. but this isn't about him..it's about ryan
Originally posted by Sin I AMhes not an authoritarian. Name a news media that promotes his message, protip, you cant. Name members of the party who actually support him, protip, you cant. Hes a one man politician, and the people like that.
Im a lot of things but delusion isn't one of them. Agree to disagree. Trump is a populist that appeals to his "audience"..if anything he's an authoritarian. but this isn't about him..it's about ryan
Originally posted by Its2016
hes not an authoritarian. Name a news media that promotes his message, protip, you cant. Name members of the party who actually support him, protip, you cant. Hes a one man politician, and the people like that.
Sigh. Ok imo he's an authoritarian. His message is his and his alone and his supporters seem to vehemently "attack" anyone with differring views. There's also an underlying xenophobic aura as well as some other things i find disconcerting. But meh..