Originally posted by BackFire
I don't see anything particularly noteworthy in this email? Someone want to point out what's supposed to be a big deal here?
Just to name a few.
Calling Latinos needy
Wanting to start a revolution in the catholic church.
Wanting open borders.
Having a public and private position when it comes to America
Calling telling Enviromental Progressives to "Get a life"
Telling Sanders Supporters they live at home with mom in the basement.
Degrading women minorties
"That sucks. Can you call Larry and see what minorities he would put in top tier? Could be an asian. I know this isn't Larry's taste, but better if a woman."
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/16031
Calling Bernie a dufas.
Distane for the term "every day Americans"
Taking 12 million from a Morocco for pay for play
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/10/hillary-clinton-foundation-morocco-wikileaks/505043/
Those aren't the topic of the thread, there are any number of threads about those particular emails.
Specific emails were posted in the OP thread as if there was something relevant/damaging in them, but I can't really see anything particularly noteworthy in them. I'd like to know why those specific emails were posted.
Originally posted by BackFireall the things he mentioned have topics and you people ignore them, demand we spell out to you the outrage, and conclude with "oh yeah, all politicians are scum" so ive decided political discussion is an absolute joke here. You guys are nothing but immature news parrots. You would probably be the first to get drafted. I guess thats kinda poetic.
Those aren't the topic of the thread, there are any number of threads about those particular emails.Specific emails were posted in the OP thread as if there was something relevant/damaging in them, but I can't really see anything particularly noteworthy in them. I'd like to know why those specific emails were posted.
I mean its ****ing highlighted, but i guess you think donald trump is a clown....and that worked so well in the primaries. Remember that?
Anyway, first few sentences are them trying to find some tape about linking trump to putin and how theyre involved in funding the FSA. Not that bad, right? All politicians are scum, they always link their opponents to boogeymen and fund terrorists, no big deal.
It then continues linking her campaign strategy to isis attacks. I didnt know they were so correlative. Very suspicious. Im not sure what the Obama-Clinton-ISIS policy is. But it seeems like a big deal. Anyway, its nothing so go back to not grabbing women by the pussy.
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Originally posted by Its2016
I mean its ****ing highlighted, but i guess you think donald trump is a clown....and that worked so well in the primaries. Remember that?Anyway, first few sentences are them trying to find some tape about linking trump to putin and how theyre involved in funding the FSA. Not that bad, right? All politicians are scum, they always link their opponents to boogeymen and fund terrorists, no big deal.
It then continues linking her campaign strategy to isis attacks. I didnt know they were so correlative. Very suspicious. Im not sure what the Obama-Clinton-ISIS policy is. But it seeems like a big deal. Anyway, its nothing so go back to not grabbing women by the pussy.
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What? None of this is even in there. You have to be very creative to get to these conclusions based on what is in the email you posted.
Much of what you're complaining about is just them talking strategy about not owning Obama's foreign policy too much because there are very valid complaints about some of the choices Obama has made in regards to Syria and ISIS. This isn't even something that needs to be quatified with the "Most politicians do it", it's not even bad at all.
Same with the bits about Putin. Nothing wrong at all with trying to highlight Trump's friendliness with Putin. He's on tape saying nice things about him. Going after him for that is perfectly fair game.
This kinda stuff is why these emails don't get all that much traction outside of right wing news outlets, there's just not a lot there. And what is there is marginally troublesome, and usually from someone in her campaign and not from her herself. As I said in another thread, it's a boy who cried wolf scenario. If the day comes when there is something actually severely damaging in one of the leaked emails, Trump supporters will have trouble convincing everyone to even read the thing because people will be suspicious that it's once again much ado about nothing.
But I appreciate you explaining exactly what was supposed to be damaging in the emails you posted.
Farage said he admired Putin, does that mean Farage is part of the Russian conspiracy to fake emails that arent your concern?
As for the connections with isis and obama, there are other emails that link hill to saudi arabia and qatar, isis funding govments. There are emails that link the clinton foundation to these goverments. And given in context, there is clearly something going on with every email released, even tho most of it is simply campaign policy and politics, the suspiciousness is there, can you at least accept that?
I accept that the suspiciousness is there for people who are desperate to find something to be suspicious about when it comes to Clinton. I accept that some of the emails released so far do not paint her in a particularly good light. But that's about it as far as I've seen.
As far as Putin goes, while I do believe that Putin is meddling in our election, I don't believe it's because he particularly wants Trump or doesn't want Clinton. I think the most likely scenario is that he's just trying to sow the seeds of chaos in the American election to make us look bad. I don't think he cares one way or another who actually wins.
And if he does actually prefer Trump I don't think it's because they're buddy buddy, but because he thinks Trump would be easier for him to manipulate, since we've seen Clinton manipulate Trump many times this election cycle.
Originally posted by BackFireMy biggest peev, which you dont understand is that its revealed she has the media on her side, its revealed that bernie was nothing more than a PR stunt to attack trump and make hill look good (i dont even need to reference emails for that, but you can find it!) and that they have ties to terrorism and russia while demonising the corrupt bush system democrats were supposedly against......
I accept that the suspiciousness is there for people who are desperate to find something to be suspicious about when it comes to Clinton. I accept that some of the emails released so far do not paint her in a particularly good light. But that's about it as far as I've seen.As far as Putin goes, while I do believe that Putin is meddling in our election, I don't believe it's because he particularly wants Trump or doesn't want Clinton. I think the most likely scenario is that he's just trying to sow the seeds of chaos in the American election to make us look bad. I don't think he cares one way or another who actually wins.
And if he does actually prefer Trump I don't think it's because they're buddy buddy, but because he thinks Trump would be easier for him to manipulate, since we've seen Clinton manipulate Trump many times this election cycle.
It gives trump enormous credibility. Its not the hypocrisy of clintons staff, its their motive. Why are they so scared of trump and the things he says? Why are they trying to demonise him with the things theyre guilty of? Are we that stupid to believe them? Cos the emails, which we arent supposed to see btw, kinda widens the cracks....
You think putin is involved in this? Youre a mad man. Youre just believing clinton shite. A look at her emails shows its just political stunts to delude the public. Shit, republicans and democrats have been doing this for years, but youre okay with your bullshit?
I dont know what you mean as clinton manipulating trump. I dont care honestly. Youll probably repeat CNN or ABC.
Originally posted by BackFire
I accept that the suspiciousness is there for people who are desperate to find something to be suspicious about when it comes to Clinton. I accept that some of the emails released so far do not paint her in a particularly good light. But that's about it as far as I've seen.As far as Putin goes, while I do believe that Putin is meddling in our election, I don't believe it's because he particularly wants Trump or doesn't want Clinton. I think the most likely scenario is that he's just trying to sow the seeds of chaos in the American election to make us look bad. I don't think he cares one way or another who actually wins.
And if he does actually prefer Trump I don't think it's because they're buddy buddy, but because he thinks Trump would be easier for him to manipulate, since we've seen Clinton manipulate Trump many times this election cycle.
Pretty good insight. I dont think he cares on way or the other about trump. I just think he likes giving the States trouble
Originally posted by Its2016
My biggest peev, which you dont understand is that its revealed she has the media on her side, its revealed that bernie was nothing more than a PR stunt to attack trump and make hill look good (i dont even need to reference emails for that, but you can find it!) and that they have ties to terrorism and russia while demonising the corrupt bush system democrats were supposedly against......It gives trump enormous credibility. Its not the hypocrisy of clintons staff, its their motive. Why are they so scared of trump and the things he says? Why are they trying to demonise him with the things theyre guilty of? Are we that stupid to believe them? Cos the emails, which we arent supposed to see btw, kinda widens the cracks....
You think putin is involved in this? Youre a mad man. Youre just believing clinton shite. A look at her emails shows its just political stunts to delude the public. Shit, republicans and democrats have been doing this for years, but youre okay with your bullshit?
I dont know what you mean as clinton manipulating trump. I dont care honestly. Youll probably repeat CNN or ABC.
Many intelligence agencies have said that the DNC hack was the work of Russia, this isn't from Hillary Clinton, this is from the NSA, FBI, and others. As far as I know no one knows where the most recent leaks are coming from.
Also Clinton is not scared of Trump. In fact one of the emails that leaked showed that she wanted to run against Trump because of how bad a candidate he is. Her campaign wanted Trump, Cruz or Carson, with Trump being their number one choice, they got their wish. She's loving running against someone as blatantly incompetent as Trump, he does all her work for her. He's constantly bleeding himself out, he makes everything worse for himself.
Clinton has been manipulating Trump constantly. She's baited him many times and he takes the bait more often than not. From the Khan's, to Alicia Machado, to taking the bait during the debates all the time and getting riled up by her. She plays him like a fiddle, it's clear as day. And Putin may see that and go "If she can do it, I could too." That's my opinion on it anyways.
Well, they tried that. Also, i know podesta's apple id was [email protected] password: runner4567 and he got his twitter hacked and his files deleted. The emails were ****ing legit and after trump attacked the moderators for 1 against 3 they finally asked clinton about her wikileaks email of open borders and she said "if you read the rest" i mean, the fact that i have to spell it out to you is saying how willfully ignorant you are of anything you stand for. You dont even have a right to criticise Bush or any republican if youre willing to let this shit slide. Weve posted enough emails to make you think. Theyre true. Theyre disgusting. You should vote Trump to make america great again.