Palpatine's Bending Lightsaber Feat - (POLL)

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

The fact that a mere residual emission from Valkorion's FLS was potent enough to breach defenses of a military-grade starship mid-flight, should tell you something about the intensity of the FLS on the whole.

Where's your evidence that they were shielded, and if they weren't, how do we know their hulls were particularly insulated? It's not like they were expecting to be fired upon by lightning.

Force lightning cannot breach defenses of a military-grade starship easily. Lord Vindican attempted to breach defenses of the starship of a smuggler with Force lightning but it didn't work, and his Force lightning was intense enough to hurt Darth Malgus.

Vindican and the Malgus in the trailer are both weaker than Valkorion, yes.

Now if a starship faces the the full brunt of Valkorion's FLS, do you think it will remain intact? No.

It probably depends on the starship. But plenty of things that can breach the hulls of a smuggler's ship cannot phase a lightsaber blade.

Originally posted by The Ellimist

your evidence that they were shielded, and if they weren't, how do we know their hulls were particularly insulated? It's not like they were expecting to be fired upon by lightning.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
and the Malgus in the trailer are both weaker than Valkorion, yes.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
probably depends on the starship. But plenty of things that can breach the hulls of a smuggler's ship cannot phase a lightsaber blade.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Smuggler and military starships are never defenseless. Shielding is standard for them.

We see unshielded starships all the time, particularly in-atmosphere. Take the Falcon, for instance, which was fired on in ESB and didn't seem to have any shielding.

Being weaker than Valkorion is not a sign of lack of power.

So? The burden was on you to demonstrate that Vindican and Malgus were comparable to Sidious; if they aren't, then their difficulty in replicating Valkorion's feat is irrelevant.

Depends

I don't understand what this reply is supposed to mean.

Originally posted by Azronger
What feats does Yoda have that make his Tutaminis impressive?

What...

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Where's your evidence that they were shielded

Let's not stoop to their level Ell. The ships were in a pitched battle so it's logical that their shields were active.

Originally posted by Azronger
]I don't think you fully understand the scope and magnitude of what bending a lightsaber means. Despite being the victim of constant mockery here on KMC, Darth Bane does actually have very potent Force lightning, to the point where he can ash humans. Despite this, Zannah was able to repel his lightning with her lightsaber no problem. The Starkiller clone and Darth Krayt have even more powerful lightning, yet the lightsaber withstood the energy no problem. Yet when Palpatine struck with lightning at Windu's blade, its energy absorbtion capabilities were compeletly and utterly overwhelmed to the point where the blade became distorted. There is not a single other being in the mythos who has accomplished this.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Windu was also enhancing the absorption capabilities of his weapon with Vaapad, and to a greater extent that he ever had before. But indeed it is described as "beyond Vaapad" as well. 👆

I'm curious, how exactly does one amp their blade with Vaapad? If I wanted to be difficult, I'd ask where in canon (not legends) does it even mention Vaapad and its capabilities?

I think the poll backfired.

We can CLEARLY see his blade was NOT bending towards him in the movie. This is without question.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
We can CLEARLY see his blade was NOT bending towards him in the movie. This is without question.

Tempest seems to have discovered that the movies aren't in legends; even if they were, the only question would be in which direction the saber was bending, not that it was - and just the fact that it was is probably the best lightning feat we've ever seen.

Given the context, the OP is clearly referring to Legends.

Seriously, why would anyone have ever thought that the movies are Legends? lol

"Vote in the poll!" refers to legends? Must be some boring-ass legend.

Legends can still be contradicted by canon. Its two versions of the same event, and one clearly supercedes the other.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
We can CLEARLY see his blade was NOT bending towards him in the movie. This is without question.

Originally posted by Beniboybling

Originally posted by Nephthys

Legends can still be contradicted by canon. Its two versions of the same event, and one clearly supercedes the other.

Not if they're two separate universes.

Originally posted by Nephthys
"Vote in the poll!" refers to legends? Must be some boring-ass legend.

Legends can still be contradicted by canon. Its two versions of the same event, and one clearly supercedes the other.

Citation needed.

They're two separate universes now, not one. 👍

Mace can't seem to keep his saber steady. 😉

That's what she said hurr durr.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Not if they're two separate universes.

Weren't the movie novels said to be canon tho.

It's absolutely clear that the lightsaber was indeed being bent by Palpatine's lightning. However, that same lightning struck Windu and he did not turn to ashes nor anything similar. If we assume lightsaber bending is one of the greatest lightning feats in the mythos, this also speaks a ton about Windu's Force defenses.

Maybe we've not seen this replicated, but it's honestly not the best feat by a mile. It's impressive, just not extremely impressive. I think turning someone instantly into a charred husk or into ashes is far more impressive than this.