Palpatine's Bending Lightsaber Feat - (POLL)

Started by The_Tempest8 pages

Ashes and charred husks... much like Neph's hopes for disavowing feats he doesn't like 🙂

Originally posted by Petrus
It's absolutely clear that the lightsaber was indeed being bent by Palpatine's lightning.

It isn't, Windu's hands were just shaking.

Originally posted by Petrus
Maybe we've not seen this replicated, but it's honestly not the best feat by a mile. It's impressive, just not extremely impressive. I think turning someone instantly into a charred husk or into ashes is far more impressive than this.

👆 regardless tho.

Originally posted by Petrus
It's absolutely clear that the lightsaber was indeed being bent by Palpatine's lightning. However, that same lightning struck Windu and he did not turn to ashes nor anything similar. If we assume lightsaber bending is one of the greatest lightning feats in the mythos, this also speaks a ton about Windu's Force defenses.

Maybe we've not seen this replicated, but it's honestly not the best feat by a mile. It's impressive, just not extremely impressive. I think turning someone instantly into a charred husk or into ashes is far more impressive than this.

Mace Windu is a Jedi; even when he was being electrocuted, his durability would still be incredibly high - likely far higher than Nyriss's. And it isn't clear if Palpatine was trying to ash Windu, rather than to torture him for a little.

You think the energy needed to vaporize a human is enough to bend a lightsaber blade? I highly doubt it.

Originally posted by Petrus
I think turning someone instantly into a charred husk or into ashes is far more impressive than this.
That would entirely depend on the person being destroyed.

I'm pretty sure Nyriss is the strongest person to be turned to ash.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Weren't the movie novels said to be canon tho.

Not by Lucasfilm. And even Del Rey's statement on it was a bit iffy "only where the novels perfectly align with the films" or some nonesense.

Point being I doubt the story group are working hard to make sure Canon does not contradict the movie novels.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Not by Lucasfilm. And even Del Rey's statement on it was a bit iffy "only where the novels perfectly align with the films" or some nonesense.

Point being I doubt the story group are working hard to make sure Canon does not contradict the movie novels.

That isn't iffy, its exactly what I've been saying. The novels are only valid if the movie doesn't contradict them. And in this case it does.

Not my problem.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I'm pretty sure Nyriss is the strongest person to be turned to ash.
The fact she was able to obliterate herself only proves she wasn't nearly at full strength.
Originally posted by Nephthys
It isn't, Windu's hands were just shaking.
If that were the case it wouldn't be spasming more at the top than the bottom.

Originally posted by Nephthys
That isn't iffy, its exactly what I've been saying. The novels are only valid if the movie doesn't contradict them. And in this case it does.

Not my problem.

I'm pretty sure the novels were considered C-canon in the old EU, which means they're a part of both Canon and Legends. 👆

Originally posted by Nephthys
That isn't iffy, its exactly what I've been saying. The novels are only valid if the movie doesn't contradict them. And in this case it does.

Not my problem.

They're only valid where they align with the movies. That's different to being Canon except where they contradict the movies.

Also said statement wasn't made by Lucasfilm or the Story Group. So not sure the statement is worth anything.

Originally posted by Nephthys
The novels are only valid if the movie doesn't contradict them.
In Canon. 😕

Originally posted by Beniboybling
The fact she was able to obliterate herself only proves she wasn't nearly at full strength.

She obliterated herself because she charged up a huge attack that far surpassed her standard force defenses. Regardless she is still the only truly notable case of someone being incinerated through force defenses that I know of.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
If that were the case it wouldn't be spasming more at the top than the bottom.

The hilt doesn't move around as much as the top because thats just how objects work which is just single IQ obvious.

Which would have expended a great deal of energy yeah. Otherwise it begs the question how she was able to unleash that energy without it killing/injuring her in the first place.

Originally posted by Nephthys
The hilt doesn't move around as much as the top because thats not how objects work which is just single IQ obvious.
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Originally posted by Nephthys
It isn't, Windu's hands were just shaking.

If you watch attentively, at the very end of the gif, you can see the saber bend to the right. I guess it's subjective, but to me there's no doubt.

👆 regardless tho. [/B]

Well, yeah. That same lightning that bent the lightsaber struck Windu and it did not turn him into ashes or something similar. In fact, it struck him by a good amount of time and he stood there, right until the very end when he was pushed off. So there's two conclusions:
1. If this saber-bending feat is as impressive as other ppl say, Windu has ridiculous Force defenses.
2. It's simply not as impressive as some ppl say.

Originally posted by Nephthys
That isn't iffy, its exactly what I've been saying. The novels are only valid if the movie doesn't contradict them. And in this case it does.

Not my problem.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
In Canon. 😕

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Mace Windu is a Jedi; even when he was being electrocuted, his durability would still be incredibly high - likely far higher than Nyriss's. And it isn't clear if Palpatine was trying to ash Windu, rather than to torture him for a little.

You think the energy needed to vaporize a human is enough to bend a lightsaber blade? I highly doubt it.

It still doesn't make up for it. It simply cannot be the most impressive lightning feat of all/one of if we see it hit Windu and he didn't die immediately. Even if he was stronger than Nyriss, it's still not equivalent. Palpatine was trying to kill Windu. He actually shouted "Full power" when striking him.

Originally posted by Petrus
Well, yeah. That same lightning that bent the lightsaber struck Windu and it did not turn him into ashes or something similar.
Much in the same manner Valkorion's lighting ashed Marr. Ah no, that's not right.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Much in the same manner Valkorion's lighting ashed Marr. Ah no, that's not right.

You ashed his argument there tbh.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Much in the same manner Valkorion's lighting ashed Marr. Ah no, that's not right.

If you guys are ranking this feat as the most impressive of all time, at least it had to do better than that against an armless, in pain Windu, tbh.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
You ashed his argument there tbh.

Yeah no, he didn't. Valkorion has what to do with this, exactly? I never said Valkorion's lightning is as impressive as Sidious'.

EDIT - nice pun, btw. 👆