Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Yeah? Goku regenerated as SSR after being stabbed by Beerus.If blue is supposed to be superior to red or have everything red has but better, it is kinda odd how we never saw Goku or Vegeta regen like that any of the times they were stabbed by Black.
Goku as it seems, did regen against Black when he was stabbed when he got angry, it seemed his injury was gone (Episode 61).
Originally posted by Inedian
Goku as it seems, did regen against Black when he was stabbed when he got angry, it seemed his injury was gone (Episode 61).
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Well regardless of what's better between super saiyan god red or blue, pre-Rose Black (which I assume this thread is about) was only around SSJ2 level, stalemating SSJ2 Goku in their brief fight. Goku Red would stomp based on that, and laugh off Black's stabby stab moves due to his regen.
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Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Well regardless of what's better between super saiyan god red or blue, pre-Rose Black (which I assume this thread is about) was only around SSJ2 level, stalemating SSJ2 Goku in their brief fight. Goku Red would stomp based on that, and laugh off Black's stabby stab moves due to his regen.
He mysteriously became far more powerful between that confrontation and the Future one, though. At that point he was strong enough to shrug off an assault from SSJB Vegeta...
If anyone goes back and watches the fight btw Beerus and Goku they will see the intensity is way beyond this little crap they are currently doing.
Like this, when they almost destroyed the entire universe.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
No he didnt
Actually it seems he did, because there were no signs of his injury anymore.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
They were pretty close, Red is stronger then Blue. The red transformation is the actual god of the saijen race, blue is not.
No they weren't close. Whis even said that Beerus was always teasing him that he will use full power or even already using it (but actually far from it), just to bring the best out of Goku.
"I think you’ll understand if you watch [the movie], but Goku has already absorbed [Super Saiyan] God’s power and made it his own, so there is no need for him to transform into [Super Saiyan] God. Goku basically only thinks of fighting as a sporting match, so borrowing the power of five people isn’t fair, and he resisted doing that; however, it seems his curiosity towards the realm that lay even further beyond him won out."
-Akira Toriyama
Now this is in reference to BoG, but Beerus surmises the exact same thing in the anime. The manga outright confirms Blue's superiority.
Blue > Red.
Yet Red has way better Screen feats, almost destroyed half the universe and fought beerus at 100%, had unlimted ki, could not be damaged by normal attacks at Beerus at 100% besides the surprise attack, and regenerated from it.
Beerus 100%> Black
Name any screen feat SSB has above SSR that tops any of the feats I just described.
SSR is the true transformation. SSB is Goku's modified without help.
Beerus flat out admitted he was at or beyond 100% with SSR.
I know what Akira said, but we dont base it of "said feats" or "writers intent", its based on screen feats.
So we need screen feats to prove Blue or Black is above SSR
If we can use another canon source, which is manga, Hit would've stopped SSR's movement with time stop, if Goku didn't become SSB when he attacked Hit. Whis explained that unique ability such as time stop would work much better when facing someone equal or with lesser power level. Beerus even confused as why Vegeta wasn't able to overcome time stop in SSB, which Whis explained this form can't be used over and over in succession since it consumed a lot of stamina and Vegeta was only able to use 1/10 of his usual SSB strength.
That being said, SSB > SSR. This is the only way to gauge which one is superior. You can say SSR has a better feat such as universe threatening punch, regeneration, or even unlimited ki, which I don't know how you know it (I would like to see the source). But the proof already says otherwise.