atris/lucien draay/master vrook vs qui-gon/ven zallow/kanan jarrus

primes, all-out, clear state of minds,

Team 2.

Team 2 easily.

Kanan can take Vrook

Zallow or Jinn stomp Atris

Originally posted by carthage
Kanan can take Vrook

Zallow or Jinn stomp Atris

Originally posted by aalyasecura95
lucien draay is in this too btw.

He's spared for wearing the best Jedi costume ever.

Team 2, but Kanan might go down faster than his teammates can beat their opponents.

Originally posted by TenebrousWay
He's spared for wearing the best Jedi costume ever.

No, he's spared because Carthage just wants to hate on KotOR II.

I'd give Lucien an edge against Jinn on the basis of sheer power. The guy had some great force feats, but Vrook is basically trash tier and Atris dies to anyone she fights bar Kanan whom she'd lolstomp

Vrook's Force feats shit on team 2's as well, lol.

Not sure how Atris lolstomps people that you think beat Vrook, either, but whatever.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Vrook's Force feats shit on team 2's as well, lol.

No. Not on Jinn's anyways.

Based on what?

Honestly, the river feat. Given Kenobi's strength at the time, the fact that he cannot combat it's current, yet Jinn could, and easily at that, is damn impressive.

Don't see why it'd compare to Vrook's Stasis showing.

I mean, freezing 16 people is nice, but not really outside of Jinn's paygrade.

Think he's talking stasising Surik

You're thinking of Kavar IIRC

Didn't they all collectively put Surik in stasis? I also doubt she'd be trying to fight back extensively.

IIRC, only Vrook gestured

Don't remember enough about how much resistance she put up to comment on that though

Kind of feel she should have been able to break it after being stunned if she could though given didn't Bane do similar on Tython?

Originally posted by ChaosTheory123
IIRC, only Vrook gestured

Which can just as easily be interpreted as the shitty KoTOR II animation. Not to mention the other Masters being off screen, IIRC.

Originally posted by ChaosTheory123
Don't remember enough about how much resistance she put up to comment on that though

Kind of feel she should have been able to break it after being stunned if she could though given didn't Bane do similar on Tython?

Even then, though, Surik was vastly pre-prime. And if they stopped their use of Stun, there'd be no reason to assume Meetra wouldn't move along afterwards.

No, it's not KotOR II's shitty animation. Shitty animation means an animation in the first place - the other masters clearly don't move. Only Vrook moves. Even if you put the camera on the Masters.

There's no reason to suspect that she would break out - that's an appeal to ignorance. Even if you try to resist, you still get placed in Stasis. Kreia also moves in to save you. Everything suggests that you were done for - nothing suggests otherwise.

And while the Exile was vastly pre-prime, some of her early game feats are pretty impressive, and she's improved a lot since then.