Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Why are they ahead of him? And I mentioned him being more powerful then Kanan which PAIRED with his technical skill would put him above them unless they have some feat or accolade I'm unaware of.
Originally posted by Ursumeles
Who? Atris? Atris statlemated Brianna, who seemingly blitzed the Handmaidens(or at least bested them all) who are basically high-class fodder, with Echani Skill and super Pre-Cog.
I don't understand what you mean, tbh.
And Kanan has blocked hundreds of blaster bolts and accomplished force feats far beyond either Atris or Brianna.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
No. I mean exactly what I said.I don't place Valkorion about Plagueis because of his status because he's NOT a Sith. Whether I would ignore the quote or not isn't relevant.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNovaLol what? You appeared to have ignored the bit about them being among the most powerful and skilled of said masters. Top retardation there Syn. 🙂 But yeah, the fact that Kanan has only received Padawan-level training is a valid mark against him.
But tbh putting a master above a knight simply because they outrank them doesn't fly.
Still looking for why he can compete tbh. The GI isn't a master of all seven forms, just skilled in them, Vrook and Atris were actual lightsaber virtuosos and masters of multiple styles, including Juyo. Kanan probably hasn't mastered any, and given his later performances against the Seventh Sis and Fifth Brother the GI feat is clearly an outlier.
But who cares anyway? They'd both one-shot him with the Force. 😬
Originally posted by Ursumeles
So...
We have a quote that puts Plaggy above any Sith before him.
Valkorion isn't a Sith, so he isn't included in the quote.
Because he isn't included, Plagueis > Valkorion.
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No I never said that. I simply stated that because Valkorion isn't a Sith the quote has no bearing on who's above who.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Lol what? You appeared to have ignored the bit about them being among the most powerful and skilled of said masters. Top retardation there Syn. 🙂 But yeah, the fact that Kanan has only received Padawan-level training is a valid mark against him.Still looking for why he can compete tbh. The GI isn't a master of all seven forms, just skilled in them, Vrook and Atris were actual lightsaber virtuosos and masters of multiple styles, including Juyo. Kanan probably hasn't mastered any, and given his later performances against the Seventh Sis and Fifth Brother the GI feat is clearly an outlier.
But who cares anyway? They'd both one-shot him with the Force. 😬
And that means nothing without knowings the capabilities of the other Jedi of their day. Plo Koon was one of the most powerful Jedi in the history of the Order and Kanan still has Force feats that are superior to him.
Being skilled enough to recognize who the master who taught you was seems to indicate mastery to me. You can't reverse scale like that. The Seventh Siter and Fifth Brother's impressiveness is based off their feats and not their standing.
Given none of them have feats that even approach Kanan's that's highly doubtful.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNovaWe do though...
And that means nothing without knowings the capabilities of the other Jedi of their day.
Plo Koon was one of the most powerful Jedi in the history of the Order and Kanan still has Force feats that are superior to him.Koon >> Kanan lol.
Being skilled enough to recognize who the master who taught you was seems to indicate mastery to me. You can't reverse scale like that. The Seventh Siter and Fifth Brother's impressiveness is based off their feats and not their standing.That's knowledge not skill.
And if the GI > the Fifth Brother and the Seventh Sister, Kanan should be beating both of them.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNovaKanan has no defense against Atris' Force lightning and nothing on incapacitating Meetra with a Force wave or putting her into stasis.
Given none of them have feats that even approach Kanan's that's highly doubtful.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
No I never said that. I simply stated that because Valkorion isn't a Sith the quote has no bearing on who's above who.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova😕
No. I mean exactly what I said.I don't place Valkorion about Plagueis because of his status because he's NOT a Sith. Whether I would ignore the quote or not isn't relevant.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
We do though...Koon >> Kanan lol.
That's knowledge not skill.
And if the GI > the Fifth Brother and the Seventh Sister, he should be beating both of them.
And the only ones who are worth a damn are already confirmed to be above them.
Name me a Force feat of Koon's that is better.
The 5th Brother and 7th Sister were only inferior prior to the GI's death and the gap between them is unknown.
See my edit regarding Force powers.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNovaYeah that's not what I was referring to, rather that the era has been described as possessing a body of highly skilled and experienced duelists, even more so than the PT era. So being among the best of that group has considerable worth yes.
And the only ones who are worth a damn are already confirmed to be above them.
Name me a Force feat of Koon's that is better.
Kind of what you'd expect from one of the most powerful Jedi in history. mmm
The 5th Brother and 7th Sister were only inferior prior to the GI's death and the gap between them is unknown.And what proof is there they surpassed him?
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Kanan has no defense against Atris' Force lightning and nothing on incapacitating Meetra with a Force wave or putting her into stasis.
Of course he does. He has the speed with which to block it and his main form is Soresu which specialized in doing so.
Meetra at what stage in the game?
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Yeah that's not what I was referring to, rather that the era has been described as possessing a body of highly skilled and experienced duelists, even more so than the PT era. So being among the best of that group has considerable worth yes.Kind of what you'd expect from one of the most powerful Jedi in history. mmm
And what proof is there they surpassed him?
You said the quote referred to their power. Not status as duelists.
He landed a push on Ventress. Kanan did the same to Vader with the help of Ezra.
I didn't sat they had. I just stated that their standing is based on their feats and performances against Kanan and not their former inferiority to the GI.