Deadshot Vs The guy from Wanted who can curve the bullet

Started by TheVaultDweller8 pages
Originally posted by h1a8
The wings off a fly is probably the feat that can beat or match Deadshot's demonstration feat or ricochet feat. But he was amped at the time.
If Deadshot can see in slow motion then he too could shoot the wings off a fly.

Shooting the wings off of three flies (considering a house fly beats its wings about 200 times a second) is way better than anything DS did. And what does that have to do with anything? The question was who actually has the better onscreen shooting feats. What you think DS might be capable of if he had the same abilities is completely irrelevant. He doesn't have them.

Originally posted by h1a8

No he wasn't. Either Wesley was in the mode or it took him a few seconds to get there. Show me a clip where he wasn't amped and then became amped instantly.

There is more than one instance where he shifts very quickly. Like when he and Fox assassinate the guy in the car. Wesley is driving normally, then flips the car off of Fox's, and by the time he is upside down, he is in amped mode (still tells the guy "I'm sorry" as he shoots him in the chest). There is zero evidence that he was in slowmo mode before the car flipped. So if you want to argue that he was, you have to prove it.

Originally posted by h1a8

The reason why I said Wesley needs cover is because of Deadshot. Deadshot is not those weak Fraternity members.
Wesley's father and Jolie were so good that they need cover in order to fight each other.

Using that logic, I can say that Deadshot is only effective with cover, as Wesley isn't one of those weak fodder DS shot.

Wow Silent. I go to work and come back to this lol.

H1a8, you're reaching hard. "If A can do the same as B, he'd be just as good." Yeah, if a regular guy suddenly became a Kryptonian on par with Superman, he could do everything Clark could. But that's not what this is. It's "A vs B" and B just so happens to have special powers that make this a huge stomp for him.

Nothing Deadshot did is out of Wesley's ability, but the exact opposite is true as almost everything Wesley has done, Deadshot can never do in his wildest dreams. He loses 10/10.

Oh, and claiming Wesley needs cover is hilarious. Even with cover, he fought people who curve bullets around corners and objects with such accuracy they routinely score headshots without even seeing what they're shooting at. If anyone needs cover it's Floyd.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Shooting the wings off of three flies (considering a house fly beats its wings about 200 times a second) is way better than anything DS did. And what does that have to do with anything? The question was who actually has the better onscreen shooting feats. What you think DS might be capable of if he had the same abilities is completely irrelevant. He doesn't have them.

There is more than one instance where he shifts very quickly. Like when he and Fox assassinate the guy in the car. Wesley is driving normally, then flips the car off of Fox's, and by the time he is upside down, he is in amped mode (still tells the guy "I'm sorry" as he shoots him in the chest). There is zero evidence that he was in slowmo mode before the car flipped. So if you want to argue that he was, you have to prove it.

Using that logic, I can say that Deadshot is only effective with cover, as Wesley isn't one of those weak fodder DS shot.

The fly feat was good because of hitting a fast moving target, not because of pinpoint accuracy. DS shooting feats from pinpoint accuracy is better. It's a lot harder to hit a 1mm target from 100-300 feet away, many times repeatedly than it is to hit a 5mm target from a few feet away. It's not even close.

That's why I said they are close to equals. One is more accurate and the other has a faster perception.

Wesley was nervous as hell the entire time. He never wanted to kill anyone. That's why he said, "I'm sorry". Also he managed to flip the car by BEING AMPED. That's huge evidence he was amped.

So again. The bell rings and DS gets off 10 shots instantly. Wesley doesn't have a chance unless he starts amped. Being able to shoot 1 bullet out of the air isn't enough. Remember DS has a machine gun.

You still haven't proven that Deadshot can match the sniper example I posted.

Originally posted by KingD19
Wow Silent. I go to work and come back to this lol.

H1a8, you're reaching hard. "If A can do the same as B, he'd be just as good." Yeah, if a regular guy suddenly became a Kryptonian on par with Superman, he could do everything Clark could. But that's not what this is. It's "A vs B" and B just so happens to have special powers that make this a huge stomp for him.

Nothing Deadshot did is out of Wesley's ability, but the exact opposite is true as almost everything Wesley has done, Deadshot can never do in his wildest dreams. He loses 10/10.

Oh, and claiming Wesley needs cover is hilarious. Even with cover, he fought people who curve bullets around corners and objects with such accuracy they routinely score headshots without even seeing what they're shooting at. If anyone needs cover it's Floyd.

Can Wesley hit a 1mm size target from over 100 yards away repeatedly (at least 20 times) without the use of a scope?

Originally posted by h1a8
Can Wesley hit a 1mm size target from over 100 yards away repeatedly (at least 20 times) without the use of a scope?

Sometimes I think you see a thread and you decide who wins by merely just going with the opposite of who a majority of people think will win.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You still haven't proven that Deadshot can match the sniper example I posted.
That wasn't a good feat. DS could do that in his sleep. Wesley used a telescope. He didn't use his naked eye. DS, with his naked eye, hitting a 1mm^2 target over 20 times in a row from more than 100 yards away IS BETTER than hitting a 2500mm^2 target from 3000 yards away. Give DS the same scope and he can extend that range more than 10 times (longer than Wesley's shot).

I didn't ask for your opinion, I asked for proof.

Originally posted by Surtur
Sometimes I think you see a thread and you decide who wins by merely just going with the opposite of who a majority of people think will win.
Stop derailing the thread and debate. I'm a scientist. You guys are not. I argue based off logic, not popularity. Refute my argument or don't debate. Enough with the flame posts.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I didn't ask for your opinion, I asked for proof.

Easy, it's called magnification.

The size of a 1mm^2 target from 100m away would appear a lot smaller than a 2500mm^2 target from 3000 yards away with the naked eye. Add the fact that Wesley used a SCOPE to see his target clearly makes it a bs feat in comparison.

Prove that Deadshot can replicate the sniper feet.

Originally posted by h1a8
Can Wesley hit a 1mm size target from over 100 yards away repeatedly (at least 20 times) without the use of a scope?

I don't recall DS having any such feat as this.

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Originally posted by FrothByte
I don't recall DS having any such feat as this.

He doesn't, h1 is lying as usual

Originally posted by FrothByte
I don't recall DS having any such feat as this.

To shoot a bullet into the same bullet hole over 20 times without making the bullet hole bigger means that DS was accurate to the nearest mm from over 100 yards REPEATEDLY.

Originally posted by h1a8
To shoot a bullet into the same bullet hole over 20 times without making the bullet hole bigger means that DS was accurate to the nearest mm.

I'm glad that he's very accurate at extremely short range, now provide proof that DS can replicate the sniper shot.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I'm glad that he's very accurate at extremely short range, now provide proof that DS can replicate the sniper shot.

So you don't understand science? Fair enough. I'll speak in your language.
Easy. Give him the special gun with the special bullet with the scope then he would do it easily. That's what DS do. Suspension of disbelief is heavily on his side.

It's called common sense.

I didn't ask for your opinion, I asked for proof.

Gibson is able to accomplish his insanity-level shooting feats not just through his gear, but also his power-set.

BTW, does anyone else find it amusing that the DS feat he is basing his entire argument on never happened?

If he was just going to make up feats, why didn't he make up a feat that would actually help his stance?