Originally posted by Azronger
You really gonna argue that after claiming Dooku's lightning took great effort to repel by Yoda?
I can easily get around that. Lightning is notoriously difficult to deflect at all. Though it could just be that Yoda was rusty and hadn't ever faced lightning before.
I mean, even AotC Kenobi could casually block his lightning with his lightsaber. Kressh on the other hand overwhelmed Thanaton's lightsaber defense and disintegrated his hilt. Then Thanaton's later lightning would be greater than that and Nox's would be considerably better still. So Nox's lightning should be extremely powerful.
It is. If the lightning is being deflected by the plasma and plasma alone, it's simple burst cannot just glide down onto the hilt, if it's positioned properly.
In Thanaton's case, he held his hilt in the exact position as his blades, the lightning attacked the blades and the hilt simultaneously.
Also, Exal barely burned Thanaton's hands, whereas Tyranus inflicted enough pain with lightning to knock out Anakin Skywalker, Savage Opress, Sora Bulq, Asajj Ventress, etc. So his should dwarf hers. 👆
Originally posted by Nephthys
I can easily get around that. Lightning is notoriously difficult to deflect at all.
Which doesn't mean your average Sith Lightning will be hard to deflect for the most powerful Jedi in history. Dooku is way more powerful than you give him credit for.
Though it could just be that Yoda was rusty and hadn't ever faced lightning before.
Baseless speculation.
I mean, even AotC Kenobi could casually block his lightning with his lightsaber. Kressh on the other hand overwhelmed Thanaton's lightsaber defense and disintegrated his hilt. Then Thanaton's later lightning would be greater than that and Nox's would be considerably better still. So Nox's lightning should be extremely powerful.
Where exactly do you draw the comparison between Kenobi and Teneb Kel from? And how do you even know Dooku was firing his lightning at its highest intensity at Kenobi?
Originally posted by Deronn_solo
The lightning that Yoda deflected collapsed portions of a ceiling, color me overly impressed.
It must've been a really durable ceiling, then 🙂
We cannot quantify it. However, we can quantify Yoda's Tutaminis, which is capable of deflecting Palpatine's FL, which is the most powerful in the mythos. If he struggled with Dooku, then the gap between Dooku and his Master may be smaller than we all thought.
Originally posted by MythLord
It is. If the lightning is being deflected by the plasma and plasma alone, it's simple burst cannot just glide down onto the hilt, if it's positioned properly.In Thanaton's case, he held his hilt in the exact position as his blades, the lightning attacked the blades and the hilt simultaneously.
Also, Exal barely burned Thanaton's hands, whereas Tyranus inflicted enough pain with lightning to knock out Anakin Skywalker, Savage Opress, Sora Bulq, Asajj Ventress, etc. So his should dwarf hers. 👆
Lmao, do your research. Anakin's deflected Dooku's lightning with his hilt level with the blade in the CW movie. So have many others. Like, I dunno, Mace Windu? And a cursory glance at that example shows Sheev's lightning jumping up and down the blade, in some cases hitting right at the edge of the hilt, so you're wrong about that as well. If it were as simple as positioning the hilt, then Windu's hilt was in easy position for Sidious to hit it, yet shockingly that's not what happened.
The lightning simply overwhelmed his ability to contain it.
It only burnt his hands because he was protecting them with the Force and a lot was still being absorbed by the lightsaber blade, dingus. Her lightning shot straight through his slaves chest and even Thanaton's was blowing through metal.
By contrast, Dooku's reflected lightning merely blew some pebbles off the wall. Oooh, so impressive. 🙄
Originally posted by Nephthys
Lmao, do your research. Anakin's deflected Dooku's lightning with his hilt level with the blade in the CW movie. So have many others. Like, I dunno, Mace Windu? And a cursory glance at that example shows Sheev's lightning jumping up and down the blade, in some cases hitting right at the edge of the hilt, so you're wrong about that as well. If it were as simple as positioning the hilt, then Windu's hilt was in easy position for Sidious to hit it, yet shockingly that's not what happened.
I wouldn't laugh if I had eye cancer. Nowhere does Tyranus' or Sidious' lightning actually land a hit on the hilt, because the plasma channelled it since Mace, Anakin and Obi-Wan positioned it that way.
Even if it did hit the hilt, it was hardly a continuous blast because, *le gasp*, those Jedi aren't idiots and probably changed position to more easily repel the lightning without their weapons getting harmed.
Originally posted by Nephthys
It only burnt his hands because he was protecting them with the Force and a lot was still being absorbed by the lightsaber blade, dingus. Her lightning shot straight through his slaves chest and even Thanaton's was blowing through metal.
OMG! She can burn hands, injure a non-Force sensitive and burn metal!
Call me when she kills groups of Clone Troopers, who were wearing armour meant to absorb electrical shocks and discharges and shields clones from cannon-induced explosions. That dwarfs burning a small amount of metal. 👆
Originally posted by Nephthys
By contrast, Dooku's reflected lightning merely blew some pebbles off the wall. Oooh, so impressive. 🙄
It destroyed a stone ceiling, lmao.
Originally posted by MythLord
I wouldn't laugh if I had eye cancer. Nowhere does Tyranus' or Sidious' lightning actually land a hit on the hilt, because the plasma channelled it since Mace, Anakin and Obi-Wan positioned it that way.Even if it did hit the hilt, it was hardly a continuous blast because, *le gasp*, those Jedi aren't idiots and probably changed position to more easily repel the lightning without their weapons getting harmed.
Gosh, did you not think that maybe that was my point? That despite them using the same positioning to block the lightning than Teneb did, their lightsabers weren't hit by the lightning? Did that just not occur to you or something? Huh? Did you not think that maybe something else determines whether lightning hits the handle? Golly, I wonder.
Windu's positioning stays the same, lol. You could at least look at something before you speculate.
Originally posted by MythLord
OMG! She can burn hands, injure a non-Force sensitive and burn metal!Call me when she kills groups of Clone Troopers, who were wearing armour meant to absorb electrical shocks and discharges and shields clones from cannon-induced explosions. That dwarfs burning a small amount of metal. 👆
Concession accepted. 😆
Are you trying to use a feat from a freaking vision for Dooku? HI-larious. If that's the best you've got, I need to change my position. Dooku isn't even fit to come in last in this thread. He should just be invalidated altogether.
Originally posted by MythLord
It destroyed a stone ceiling, lmao.
It chipped it. 😆
Originally posted by Nephthys
Gosh, did you not think that maybe that was my point? That despite them using the same positioning to block the lightning than Teneb did, their lightsabers weren't hit by the lightning? Did that just not occur to you or something? Huh? Did you not think that maybe something else determines whether lightning hits the handle? Golly, I wonder.
Windu's positioning stays the same, lol. You could at least look at something before you speculate. [/B][/QUOTE]
They didn't use the same positioning, you moron. That's the point. Also, their hilts weren't nearly as big a target as Teneb's was.
And that hardly even demonstrates power to just aim lightning at a hilt, it just demonstrates precision, and I honestly doubt Kressh is more precise or controlled than Tyranus or Sidious.
And Mace kept angling his hilt downwards as he drove the lightning back at Sidious, thus putting it in a position where his hilt couldn't be hit.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Concession accepted. 😆
Didn't concede to anything. She actually did burn Tenebs hands. Even if he was shielding himself, Savage, Sora, Anakin and Asajj would all also be shielding themselves and they got fried by Tyranus on a far more convincing level.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Are you trying to use a feat from a freaking vision for Dooku? HI-larious.
LMAO. 😆 Of course I'm not using a "freaking vision" for Dooku, I'm using his feat from Dark Disciple.
Originally posted by Nephthys
It chipped it. 😆
It caused a massive explosion, then we cut away from the ceiling. It was certainly harmed in one way or another. Not that it's even relevant, since two Force Shields reflecting it would've deafened the lightning's effect.
To quote you: "You could at least look at something before you speculate".