Originally posted by MythLord
But if the Fact File is "canon only", then they'd inadvertantly canonize it and go against what LucasArts, now Disney, have done to the continuity.It causes too many mental fook ups. Just think of the Fact File as composite, or apply the sections about the EU stories to the EU, the canon stories to Canon and be done with it.
No, I'm sorry, whatever confusion based around the conundrum of continuities has been cleared up by that quote, any reference to older material is simply a case of the writers nicking content to pad out the history sections of canon - which is what they've been doing since the split; ie Malchor being home of the Sith in Rebels. That does not mean they're considering everything that occurred in Legends or that it's composite.
Originally posted by ZiggystardustThere are zero instances of Legends material being copied exactly across into Canon, and none where it contradicts existing continuity.
No, I'm sorry, whatever confusion based around the conundrum of continuities has been cleared up by that quote, any reference to older material is simply a case of the writers nicking content to pad out the history sections of canon - which is what they've been doing since the split; ie Malchor being home of the Sith in Rebels. That does not mean they're considering everything that occurred in Legends or that it's composite.
So no.
The smart approach is probably to simply consider the Legends articles Legends, and the Canon articles Canon. Maybe.
@Ziggy
It's not just nicking content, it's directly copying the story onto the issue, thus canonizing it.
If this is the case, Exar Kun, Darth Bane, Tyvokka, and Prince Xizor are all Canon and so are their stories, yet the publishments to these stories all have them as "Legends".
It's not that hard to grasp, either Fact File went against Disney and canonized a good deal of the EU, or it's Composite.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Fisto was probably better than Kenobi as of TCW S1 and against Ventress he fought her on a dark side nexus and with a sloppy technique.On the other hand, Kenobi never managed to overcome Grievous in sabers until RotS. It functions.
A good explanation for the Fisto case is that he was considered "in no shape to fight" by his medical droid (since he had just been reconstructed).
Originally posted by MythLord
[B]@ZiggyIt's not just nicking content, it's directly copying the story onto the issue, thus canonizing it.
What's your point? They have complete agency to canonize whatever they want. But unless, they're literally reprinting issues of comics or 300 page novels into those Fact Files, they're not directly copying anything. There are tons of details left out of those stories that are all left up up interpretation, and they can afford to recycle those stories for the purposes because it isn't contradicting any of the material disney released - Rebels, the new films or TCW.
It's not that hard to grasp, either Fact File went against Disney and canonized a good deal of the EU, or it's Composite.
A good deal is actually a very thin slice when you consider just how much content has been ejaculated out within a forty year time period. And how is this going against Disney? I'm pretty sure Ant's email response said they were going to pay tribute to things in the Old continuity, by including it in the canon Fact File, until you can prove otherwise, I see no reason not to trust that source of info.
Originally posted by Ziggystardust
What's your point? They have complete agency to canonize whatever they want. But unless, they're literally reprinting issues of comics or 300 page novels into those Fact Files, they're not directly copying anything. There are tons of details left out of those stories that are all left up up interpretation, and they can afford to recycle those stories for the purposes because it isn't contradicting any of the material disney released - Rebels, the new films or TCW.A good deal is actually a very thin slice when you consider just how much content has been ejaculated out within a forty year time period. And how is this going against Disney? I'm pretty sure Ant's email response said they were going to pay tribute to things in the Old continuity, by including it in the canon Fact File, until you can prove otherwise, I see no reason not to trust that source of info.
The problem is they're taking excerts/scans from those comics and novels, detailing their major events like it happened in the EU, and listing some accomplishments/hype for the characters that happened in the EU.
They're obviously making the EU canon, something that is specifically against the wish of Disney, since all of those stories were meant to be wiped off from continuity so that their writters can expand upon that on their on time(i.e. Rebels, Shattered Empire, etc.)
And to drive it all home: these Fact Files mention the Yuuzhan Vong(that don't exist in canon and are replaced by the events of The Force Awakens), Galen Marek and PROXY(that also do not exist as their story has been replaced with that of Rebels), and probably some other examples I forgot to mention.
The timelines that Fact File is describing is in conflict, so it's logical to assume they take into account both the EU and canon.