Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Nice dodge you want everyone to answer your questions, you know you been caught.With a muzzle velocity of 2850 ft per second, a 50cal round would travel 1 mile in about 2.5 seconds.
So a bullet traveling 2500fps going 20 feet would be basically instantaneous.
Thors hammer was not traveling instantaneously.
Show me where I claimed it visually did? I never said it did. I've been VERY clear this entire time in my argument. My argument is the director doesn't always show things in real time speed. I've cited numerous examples of such. This has been unquestionably proven this happens in movies. So if it's a common theme in movies, why are you viewing that scene as what we see is what we get? That is why we are here. I dont' agree that it has to be always looked at that way. In movies we see bullets flying.. the director shows it to us for visual effect... Yet, if it was done in real time, we'd never see it. Happens all the time... yet here, you wanna go, no no no I saw it moving slow therefore it must be slow. I disagree with that cut and dry logic.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You obviously don't.Explain to me how we can see superman first learning to fly and seemingly traveling all over the world and the U.S. in moments... YET, we can visually see him flying. If that was done in real time and perception... is it NOT true that we'd see nothing at all? Yet we do... why?
Second example, he goes to save his mother. He has an OH CRAP look... fly's off and creates a sonic boom. Yet we visually see him.. how is that possible. If he was moving so fast to make a sonic boom... we'd never see him... why do we?
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiThe difference is we have instances of supes traveling across the world instantaneously twice to save Lois. We don't have the same feats for Thors hammer
You obviously don't.Explain to me how we can see superman first learning to fly and seemingly traveling all over the world and the U.S. in moments... YET, we can visually see him flying. If that was done in real time and perception... is it NOT true that we'd see nothing at all? Yet we do... why?
Second example, he goes to save his mother. He has an OH CRAP look... fly's off and creates a sonic boom. Yet we visually see him.. how is that possible. If he was moving so fast to make a sonic boom... we'd never see him... why do we?
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Show me where I claimed it visually did? I never said it did. I've been VERY clear this entire time in my argument. My argument is the director doesn't always show things in real time speed. I've cited numerous examples of such. This has been unquestionably proven this happens in movies. So if it's a common theme in movies, why are you viewing that scene as what we see is what we get? That is why we are here. I dont' agree that it has to be always looked at that way. In movies we see bullets flying.. the director shows it to us for visual effect... Yet, if it was done in real time, we'd never see it. Happens all the time... yet here, you wanna go, no no no I saw it moving slow therefore it must be slow. I disagree with that cut and dry logic.
I'm sorry you can't grasp simple math and trying to compare two completely different universes and directors intent and now convoluted them into the same type of showing with zero proof.
I gave you raw numbers in feet per second.
Originally posted by Arachnid1
The difference is we have instances of supes traveling across the world instantaneously twice to save Lois. We don't have the same feats for Thors hammer
Only we don't have exact times on even those. Those are cut away scenes. By all means though, prove how quickly he did that. The point here is this, We have seen in Dark World and the First Thor movie he can throw his hammer very fast. Blurry fast. We've even seen him spin his hammer blurry fast. Yet here, because the director made it a little more visual and appear slower... it was moving slow? Yeah, no. My point is, and it has been unquestionably proven, directors often don't show things in real time. Is this something you disagree with Arach? I can visually see all of superman and Zod's punches and Nam's.... they look human level speed... Does that mean they are? I don't think so, I believe they were faster but the director wanted us to see the fights. we pay to see them. Yet with thor, it's only what we see is what we get? Nah.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
No, he saved her as she was falling from a building. Which means he flew about 5000 miles in 2 seconds and managed to slow himself down in that amount of time to not kill her by his speed and impact.Wrong again.
I'll make this simple for you... do directors always show things in real time speed?
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiOf course I don't disagree with that man, but I can only support it if the subject in question has unquestionable feats of bullet time or faster. Spiderman, for example, is indisputably a bullet timer. Therefore, I can agree that he is moving faster than actually shown.
Only we don't have exact times on even those. Those are cut away scenes. By all means though, prove how quickly he did that. The point here is this, We have seen in Dark World and the First Thor movie he can throw his hammer very fast. Blurry fast. We've even seen him spin his hammer blurry fast. Yet here, because the director made it a little more visual and appear slower... it was moving slow? Yeah, no. My point is, and it has been unquestionably proven, directors often don't show things in real time. Is this something you disagree with Arach? I can visually see all of superman and Zod's punches and Nam's.... they look human level speed... Does that mean they are? I don't think so, I believe they were faster but the director wanted us to see the fights. we pay to see them. Yet with thor, it's only what we see is what we get? Nah.
The Hulk is not a bullet timer, but he was able to catch Thors hammer throw like it was a softball. This suggests that it is going much slower than bullet time. We have no indisputable feats of the hammer traveling that fast, yet
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Failing from a building is real time...shut up already👆
One of these days you'll make a coherent point. I NEVER said there wasn't instances of real time. Care to point out where I said there isn't? Or would you instead prefer to look silly and post more real time examples LOL. My point is, and has always been, real time ISN'T ALWAYS SHOWN, even in the same movie. Thor's hammer has been shown to move at blurring speeds in other movies... yet here... because we see it better it must be real time. That is the hypocrisy I'm exposing and your falling for it hook line and sinker
Originally posted by Arachnid1
Of course I don't disagree with that man, but I can only support it if the subject in question has unquestionable feats of bullet time or faster. Spiderman, for example, is indisputably a bullet timer. Therefore, I can agree that he is moving faster than actually shown.The Hulk is not a bullet timer, but he was able to catch Thors hammer throw like it was a softball. This suggests that it is going much slower than bullet time. We have no indisputable feats of the hammer traveling that fast, yet
Yet in other movies with Thor.. a hammer throw is shown at blurry speeds. So why would it be slower here, when we know it's possible directors always dont' show real time speed? How is that a fact then? Further, that wasn't even Hulk's speed reaction feat... that would likely be the fighter pilot ejection feat... Which seems to clearly indicate he can perceive and react to something as fast as what Faora was showing fighting at. Or do you think she was fighting faster than the ejection speed?
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiWe see it move in real time slower than a bullet. You couldn't be any more retarded. You even tried citing the comics. LoM blatant troll fail.
One of these days you'll make a coherent point. I NEVER said there wasn't instances of real time. Care to point out where I said there isn't? Or would you instead prefer to look silly and post more real time examples LOL. My point is, and has always been, real time ISN'T ALWAYS SHOWN, even in the same movie. Thor's hammer has been shown to move at blurring speeds in other movies... yet here... because we see it better it must be real time. That is the hypocrisy I'm exposing and your falling for it hook line and sinker
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Yet in other movies with Thor.. a hammer throw is shown at blurry speeds. So why would it be slower here, when we know it's possible directors always dont' show real time speed? How is that a fact then? Further, that wasn't even Hulk's speed reaction feat... that would likely be the fighter pilot ejection feat... Which seems to clearly indicate he can perceive and react to something as fast as what Faora was showing fighting at. Or do you think she was fighting faster than the ejection speed?
Provide screen feats not just "other movies."
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Yet in other movies with Thor.. a hammer throw is shown at blurry speeds. So why would it be slower here, when we know it's possible directors always dont' show real time speed? How is that a fact then? Further, that wasn't even Hulk's speed reaction feat... that would likely be the fighter pilot ejection feat... Which seems to clearly indicate he can perceive and react to something as fast as what Faora was showing fighting at. Or do you think she was fighting faster than the ejection speed?
The hammer in real time is moving slower then a bullet. Are you unaware of what feet per second is?
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Yet in other movies with Thor.. a hammer throw is shown at blurry speeds. So why would it be slower here, when we know it's possible directors always dont' show real time speed? How is that a fact then? Further, that wasn't even Hulk's speed reaction feat... that would likely be the fighter pilot ejection feat... Which seems to clearly indicate he can perceive and react to something as fast as what Faora was showing fighting at. Or do you think she was fighting faster than the ejection speed?
With a muzzle velocity of 2850 ft per second, a 50cal round would travel 1 mile in about 2.5 seconds.
So a bullet traveling 2500fps going 20 feet would be basically instantaneous.
Thors hammer was not traveling instantaneously and it is moving in real time, somewhere around the speed of a fast pitched major league pitcher based on the distance to target and time it took to get from A to B.