Was Luke amped when he dueled Sidious?

Started by The Ellimist3 pages

Was Luke amped when he dueled Sidious?

Ares makes a good case for why he wasn't.

As a follow up, was this a fluke or peak performance kind of situation?

Re: Was Luke amped when he dueled Sidious?

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Ares makes a good case for why he wasn't.

Which one?

Yes, he was.

And no, it wasn't a fluke. Luke is Sidious-tier.

Yes, he was. It makes no sense he goes from getting stomped, to overwhelming in less than a few days.

He was only stomped because of the location.

Originally posted by MythLord
Yes, he was. It makes no sense he goes from getting stomped, to overwhelming in less than a few days.
So in the NFL when teams meet twice a year and in one game a team gets stomped to win the next encounter it does not make sense ? Are you retarded ? Serious question.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So in the NFL when teams meet twice a year and in one game a team gets stomped to win the next encounter it does not make sense ? Are you retarded ? Serious question.

The difference in athletic ability and preparation between NFL teams is granular, unlike the difference between Force users which can be on the orders of magnitude.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
The difference in athletic ability and preparation between NFL teams is granular, unlike the difference between Force users which can be on the orders of magnitude.

This is true.

Also, the amount of players multiply the number of variables and predictability upset, making it more difficult to predict which team will win a game. Sports with have the most accurately predicted outcomes usually involve 1 player on each side, like Tennis, where the favourites almost always win.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
The difference in athletic ability and preparation between NFL teams is granular, unlike the difference between Force users which can be on the orders of magnitude.
Completely untrue. Acting as if two separate events have to completely match up to the previous experience isn't realistic. There are also upsets in singular sporting events just like there are with teams. This really doesn't detract from Tsno really point to be gleaned from myth lords retardation. If there isn't definitive proof Luke was amped you can't reach that conclusion just because their first fight ended up differently.

To back any claim you need to prove it.

Yep. He was amped heavily.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Yep. He was amped heavily.

Based on what was he amped "heavily"?

And?

Originally posted by ares834
And?

What was your argument?

The audio drama makes it clear she isn't amping Luke until after the duel whereas the comic leaves it ambiguous.

Sound: The Emperor's own lightsaber activates.

EMPEROR: So be it. Through the power of the Force, you will DIE!!!

Sound: The Emperor lunges at Luke--who activates his own lightsaber and blocks the blow!! A vicious duel ensues between the two. Both grunt and yell as they lash out.

LEIA: Be careful, Luke! The Force is strong....they're both moving so fast, I can hardly see them....I feel waves of power....the Dark Side and the Light.....But......I feel......the Light.....is winning!!

Sound: One blow finally lands---and something thuds on the floor as both lightsabers deactivate!

EMPEROR: NNAAAAARRRGGGHHH!!!! MY HANDD!!! YOU'VE CUT OFF MY HANNNDDDD!!!!!!

LUKE: NOW, "Your Highness," we will escort you to the Alliance base, where you will surrender the Galaxy to the New Republic!!

EMPEROR: (long pause) Look at you. Don't think I don't know your plan.

Sound: A far-off roar begins in the far distance.....the same noise that spirited Luke away from Coruscant.

EMPEROR: The Dark Side HAS you. You intend to rule the Galaxy, in my place. But....utter imbecile that you are....you have STILL failed to understand MY POWERRRR!!!!!!

LEIA: (hearing the noise) What's happening?!

EMPEROR: Watch the viewscreen!! And listen as your friends DIE!!!!

Sound: The sound becomes louder......and moving lower.

LUKE: He's created another storm!

LEIA: It's descending on Pinnacle Base, consuming all the ships in its path! (rushes to the comm console and activates the comm) Mon Mothma, can you hear me?!

MON MOTHMA: (on intercom, shouting to be heard) Princess Leia, there's an energy storm! It's suddenly taken over the planet!! We have 12 ships lost already!!! All our hands have been lost--we're being wiped out!!!

HAN: (on intercom) LEIA!! LE-----(ominous static)

LEIA: (tightly controlling her anger) You're going to SLAUGHTER all those people!!

EMPEROR: Yes. Did I not warn you? I've played your Jedi dueling games long enough. Now, you will experience my FULL potency. I live as energy!! I AM THE DARK SIDE!!!!

LUKE: What have you done....? The power you've unleashed....even YOU can't control it!

LEIA: But WE can, Luke. WE can do it. That's what the Holocron meant. Let me add my power to yours.

EMPEROR: Yes. Waste your time on stupid Jedi tricks. The storm will crush your Rebel base to dust.

Originally posted by ares834
And?
And if she was continuing to unlock his energies then she didn't start just then?

Quite right. And yet, that doesn't indicate that she amped Luke during the duel only that she has been doing it prior to that moment. When she began to amp him is not stated in the comic, however it is stated in the audio drama and it happens after the duel.

Not really, you omitted a monologue before that scene where Leia and Luke talk about being one and what not, which appears to remove Palpatine's influence over him.

Originally posted by Azronger
Based on what was he amped "heavily"?

His former performance and the fact that Leia was amping him.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
His former performance and the fact that Leia was amping him.

His former performance was on Byss. Invalid evidence.