Was Luke amped when he dueled Sidious?

Started by ares8343 pages
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Not really, you omitted a monologue before that scene where Leia and Luke talk about being one and what not, which appears to remove Palpatine's influence over him.

She helps him break free of the cloud of the dark side and Palpatine's influence. There is nothing to suggest she amps him and such a notion is refuted by the passage I posted wherein she does not even conceive of melding her power to Luke's until after the duel. It's quite clear cut.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
His former performance and the fact that Leia was amping him.

Post evidence of Leia amping him then.

Apart from that extract I raised.

Originally posted by Azronger
His former performance was on Byss. Invalid evidence.

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Even in that fight, it wasn't the 2 second "stomp" people make out.

Originally posted by ares834
She helps him break free of the cloud of the dark side and Palpatine's influence. There is nothing to suggest she amps him and such a notion is refuted by the passage I posted wherein she does not even conceive of melding her power to Luke's until after the duel. It's quite clear cut.

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Originally posted by Azronger
His former performance was on Byss. Invalid evidence.

The additive bonus a DS nexus would provide is negligible compared to Sidious's own power at this point.

Originally posted by ares834
Post evidence of Leia amping him then.

Beni just did.

Luke may have also grown more powerful to the end of DE.

Weren't you the one that always argued Luke couldn't have grown much from DE to his confrontation with Kun due to his performance there?

Or was that somebody else?

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
The additive bonus a DS nexus would provide is negligible compared to Sidious's own power at this point.

Byss in DE is noted to be more a more potent nexus than Sidious was during RotJ. "Negligible." Lmao.

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Yes and I'm sure all the planetary nexuses Bane or Dooku or other far less powerful Darksiders have benefitted from were infinitely more powerful then them. It doesn't mean it provided a boost to a significant degree. In regards to Dooku at the very most it boosted his TK from bride busting to frigate busting. The gains DE Sidious would get from Byss compared to his own power would be minimal unless we're assuming the bonus is multiplicative which doesn't make sense given we've seen less powerful Force users benefit equally to their betters on nexuses.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Beni just did.

No he didn't. Like I said, the timeline is left ambiguous in the comic but is clarified in the audio drama.

What are you talking about. The scan has Leia unlocking hidden reserves in Luke and it's during the fight with Palpatine. How much more clear can you get?

Here we go again...

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Yes and I'm sure all the planetary nexuses Bane or Dooku or other far less powerful Darksiders have benefitted from were infinitely more powerful then them.

Well, no shit, since, as you yourself noted, they were far less powerful than Sidious, lmao.

It doesn't mean it provided a boost to a significant degree.

So, a nexus that is more powerful than a galaxy-wide nexus, compressed to the area of a single planet, doesn't boost someone to a significant degree? 😂

In regards to Dooku at the very most it boosted his TK from bride busting to frigate busting.

Why are you bringing up Korriban, again?

The gains DE Sidious would get from Byss compared to his own power would be minimal

So you think RotJ Sidious' power in the Force is "minimal" compared to his DE iteration? Please, tell me how you came to such a conclusion.

unless we're assuming the bonus is multiplicative which doesn't make sense given we've seen less powerful Force users benefit equally to their betters on nexuses.

What?

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
What are you talking about. The scan has Leia unlocking hidden reserves in Luke and it's during the fight with Palpatine. How much more clear can you get?

Are you dense? We are talking about the duel which, by that point, had already been finished.

There is certainly density present in this thread yeah, but this time its not from Syn. 🙂

Originally posted by ares834
Are you dense? We are talking about the duel which, by that point, had already been finished.

The scans prior show the fight is ongoing. It cuts to Leia amping Luke and then Luke having defeated Palpatine. What's so hard about this?

Originally posted by Beniboybling
There is certainly density present in this thread yeah, but this time its not from Syn. 🙂

Sorry that you don’t have any proof and have to result to insults.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
The scans prior show the fight is ongoing. It cuts to Leia amping Luke and then Luke having defeated Palpatine. What's so hard about this?

Umm… No. Luke has already defeated Palpatine in the duel by this point. This is when Palpatine is using a force storm to destroy the rebel fleet and Luke and Leia cause Palpatine to lose control over it.

Read the comic next time before you try to debate. 👆

Originally posted by Azronger
Here we go again...

Well, no shit, since, as you yourself noted, they were far less powerful than Sidious, lmao.

So, a nexus that is more powerful than a galaxy-wide nexus, compressed to the area of a single planet, doesn't boost someone to a significant degree? 😂

Why are you bringing up Korriban, again?

So you think RotJ Sidious' power in the Force is "minimal" compared to his DE iteration? Please, tell me how you came to such a conclusion.

What?

Yes. And it doesn't mean the amp they received was the equivalent to the total power of said planetary nexus. This is really something I shouldn't need to point at for you.

Galaxy wide nexus? What are you talking about? Are you referring to Sidious? Because btw the quote you used to back your assertion that it even was a more powerful nexus then Sidious is based on somebody saying "If there was a dark center to the universe, this would be it." Which is no way validates the position. Was the guy who said that even a Force user? Regardless even if it was third person omniscient source and directly stated what you're claiming how would that apply to a comparison between a planet and a sentient being capable of moving around the Galaxy? The reaching here is approaching Mr. Fantastic levels.

Because it's clear Dooku didn't gain the power of the entire planet. Just like regardless of if Byss is actually more powerful then Sidious or not Sidious is not going to be receiving an amp equivalent to the power that Byss possesses as a nexus.

No, I just am aware of the fact that being a Force user on a nexus doesn't give you the entire power of the nexus itself. Lmao.

Let me put this to you as simply as I can. Being on a nexus doesn't give you the power of a planetary focal point of darkside power. I know. Pretty mindblowing.

@Ares:

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Yes, I know. And the question becomes when did she join her power with Luke? It’s left ambiguous in the comic. However, the audio drama clarifies that she did not join with Luke until after the duel.