Originally posted by Petrus
With the Valkorion amp, he is certainly scratching that.And I think Geistalt put it nicely on the previous page.
Why? Because he deflected some lightsaber blades? Shaak Ti can do that, and I hope you don't consider her Vader-tier, lmao. The only only other showing in the Force I've seen from the Valkorion-amped Outlander is getting downed by Arcann, and that was with a lightsaber that amped him specifically and only against Arcann. It wouldn't work on Vader.
In short, he couldn't dream of being on Vader's tier.
And no, he didn't put it very nicely. SoR Revan is fodder to RotJ Sidious. The team isn't touching this guy.
Originally posted by Nephthys
That's not how it works, it doesn't take a a nuke to hurt him. Sidious still got his hand cut off by a normal lightsaber, like any other Sith would.
Oh, if you're talking about a sabers fight, then Palpatine still crushes them, especially given that Valkorion and the Dread Masters are irrelevant there (and you have not established that any of the others can even hurt him with the Force), and so look to precedent of Dooku vs. Anakin and Obi Wan.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Oh, if you're talking about a sabers fight, then Palpatine still crushes them, especially given that Valkorion and the Dread Masters are irrelevant there (and you have not established that any of the others can even hurt him with the Force), and so look to precedent of Dooku vs. Anakin and Obi Wan.
..... Valkorion and the Dread Masters?
But no, I'm just pointing out that you're insane and that Sidious can get hurt by conventional methods. Even in that scan Az posted he's clutching his stomach after getting hit as if it hurt him. He isn't invincible to damage less than Marek's blast. I think he'd get overwhelmed by the numerous powerful attacks coming his way while the Wrath and HoTlander fight him in sabers.
Originally posted by Nephthys
..... Valkorion and the Dread Masters?But no, I'm just pointing out that you're insane and that Sidious can get hurt by conventional methods. Even in that scan Az posted he's clutching his stomach after getting hit as if it hurt him. He isn't invincible to damage less than Marek's blast. I think he'd get overwhelmed by the numerous powerful attacks coming his way while the Wrath and HoTlander fight him in sabers.
Nobody said he was invincible; the point is that his barrier feats are beyond what any of the protags have been shown to output, and his lightning feats are clearly enough to overwhelm them, so at the very least, he can block all their attacks and then electrocute them with lightsaber-bending lightning while those who try to engage him up close die quickly.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Sidious never bent a lightsaber, its a complete fabrication. And Sidious won't be able to duel, block blaster shots, darts, grenades and rockets etc and maintain a powerful barrier to deflect force attacks all at the same time while hosing them with lightning. You're wildly overreaching here.
Lmao, he has done all in RotS. It's not reaching, it's just handing out facts from the source material.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Sidious never bent a lightsaber, its a complete fabrication. And Sidious won't be able to duel, block blaster shots, darts, grenades and rockets etc and maintain a powerful barrier to deflect force attacks all at the same time while hosing them with lightning. You're wildly overreaching here.
His Force power is greater than theirs collectively; that's clear from the fact that I doubt the protags together could mind-fugg Coruscant or mind control Byss. And by the time they approach close quarters, half or more of them will be dead anyway. And the non-Force sensitive protags with the firearms can be killed with basically no exertion on Sidious's part.