Proof that Novel blurbs are canon

Started by Ursumeles3 pages

Proof that Novel blurbs are canon

IIRC, there was an Leeland Chee quote, or so. Does anyone has it?

Well, he has that quote that essentially says, "basically everything published regardless of the media, excluding x&y, is canon."

He never directly addresses it or anything like that, to my knowledge, though.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Well, he has that quote that essentially says, "basically everything published regardless of the media, excluding x&y, is canon."

Do you have a scan?

"...continuity "C" canon which is pretty much everything else." By everything else I mean EVERYthing else. Novels, comics, junior novels, videogames, trading card games, roleplaying games, toys, websites, television. As I've mentioned earlier, any contradictions that arise are dealt on a case-by-case.

This has been our general approach to continuity since we began using the Holocron database to track it."

- chee

Oh shit. Noice. Thanks Ziggy.

All that C-Canon stuff isn't relevant anymore.

Now it's either Canon or Legends (Non-Canon).

Nah

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Nah

So we're taking the Bane book cover quote and the Plaggy one at face value now?

Christ.

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
So we're taking the Bane book cover quote and the Plaggy one at face value now?

Christ.

Your forum's choice really

Just play a game of "spot the contradiction" and see how they hold up *shrugs*

After all, contradiction are dealt with on a case by case basis according to Chee in that same quote

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
So we're taking the Bane book cover quote and the Plaggy one at face value now?

Christ.

Nope. I only take quotes that clear up an ambiguous issue or are supported by feats.

Death to blurbs:

http://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/starkiller-vs-darth-caedus-1694177/?page=2#js-message-72

TL;DR

Chee saying "everything owned by Lucas is canon" doesn't apply to novel blurbs. Blurbs, cover art, the paperback itself etc, are owned by the publisher.

In this case the publisher of most Star Wars books, Del Rey, isn't owned by Lucasfilms/Disney. Their parent company is Random House Books, who also happen to publish George R. R. Martin's books, along with countless others.

Death to Star Wars literature you mean? Since it's all "owned" by Del Rey. 😬

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Death to Star Wars literature you mean? Since it's all "owned" by Del Rey. 😬
They don't own creative/copyright rights, though. Unless I'm mistaken, it would be a breach of contract for Del Rey to go outside of Disney/Lucasfilms and get someone who isn't Drew to write some Darth Zannah books. You need permission from Star Wars to write Star Wars books.

Point being, nobody from Lucasfilms is responsible for, or has any authority over, what goes on a blurb.

Originally posted by ILS
http://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/starkiller-vs-darth-caedus-1694177/?page=2#js-message-72

Holy f-uck, Myth was 10/10 retarded in that thread a year ago.

Yeah, so for example, a single author could go to a publisher and try to get their work published. In the contract, they would cover film and translation rights. The publisher would say something like "we'll pay this and this if you let us translate your book to Russian, and this if you give us the right to make a movie out of it."

But, clearly, Del Rey doesn't have film rights for Star Wars. On the same note, they clearly don't have control over what goes into the book itself, aside from saying "We'll publish you, but only if you change this" - it's still up to the author whether or not they make the suggested changes.

The publisher only draws up a contract with the author, gets their permission for X, Y and Z, and then sell the book. The key word being sell.

Don't think anyone's been treating the blurbs as canon. But fallibility is not the same as inaccuracy. It's just a point in favour of Plagueis.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Holy f-uck, Myth was 10/10 retarded in that thread a year ago.
Classic Comic Vine for you.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Don't think anyone's been treating the blurbs as canon. But fallibility is not the same as inaccuracy. It's just a point in favour of Plagueis.
My argument stopped hinging on fallibility a long time ago.

Is it a point in favour? I guess. Is it something I would rely on if there was nothing else? Not a chance in hell. I don't disagree with the blurb but that doesn't mean it's coming from a reliable/official source. A layperson can be right about something but that doesn't mean they have more authority than an expert in the field, or in this case, someone who has the right to sell and advertise does not have creative rights for all of Star Wars.

Originally posted by ILS
They don't own creative/copyright rights, though. Unless I'm mistaken, it would be a breach of contract for Del Rey to go outside of Disney/Lucasfilms and get someone who isn't Drew to write some Darth Zannah books. You need permission from Star Wars to write Star Wars books.

Point being, nobody from Lucasfilms is responsible for, or has any authority over, what goes on a blurb.

No, a breach of contract would be for Del Rey to publish a SW book outside of the LucasBooks imprint, the Lucas company and publishing arm of Lucasfilm that publishers like Dey Rey (and DK, and Titan etc.) have the rights to create SW liscensed out to. Much in the same way that independent authors like Drew, who are not Lucas companies, and whom often write content for other universes, like Mass Effect, are liscensed as authors by LucasBooks.

Or in other words yes, the blurb is produced by Lucasfilm, or rather Lucasbooks, a Lucas company, just through a series of third parties. And yes, all of it is ultimately owned by them. Case in point, on the back cover of the Darth Plagueis novel, right beneath the blurb, is the following:

So yeah, it's canon. 👆