Originally posted by Martian_mind
So she's never affected anyone with it other than a Black Lantern? Brings who were specifically indentified as being weak to it?Cool. It means it's useless here. Now, what about my other questions? Who has she beaten of note, and what showings does this movement prediction have? Because at the moment, it seems like Dove's only option is to BFR herself by running away.
Did I say that? Nope.
You haven't said much at all, which is the problem. You did claim she has beaten tough opponents, yet when asked, failed to provide them. You have mentioned that she can predict his movements, yet have failed to provide any showings of this skill, or how effective it can be. In fact, you just mentioned that she's been tagged by Mammoth, whose speed is < Daredevil, so clearly he can tag her.
Essentially, it's obvious that this Dove has never beaten anyone of note, is no stronger than many of Daredevil's usual opponents, and is so incompetent with her speed and move reading that she gets tagged by Mammoth, a guy that Tim Drake has treated like a chump.
Until the Dove side produces anything of note, I'm considering this yet another flawless victory for the man without fear.
Peace out, bitches.
Originally posted by Martian_mind
she gets tagged by Mammoth, a guy that Tim Drake has treated like a chump.
Originally posted by zopzop
Just wanted to comment on this. You KNOW that's PIS to the extreme. I promise you in a forum fight between Mammoth and Tim Drake, Drake would end up as nothing more than a bloody smear on the ground.
Why? Power does not equal auto-win. Daredevil has physically beaten Mr. Hyde, yet Hyde is multiple times more powerful.
Originally posted by Stoic
Why? Power does not equal auto-win. Daredevil has physically beaten Mr. Hyde, yet Hyde is multiple times more powerful.
How in the hell is a peak athlete (Drake) going to beat a CL75 (minimum) powerhouse (Mammoth)? Even if he's 'bulkier' Mammoth can still lift/press HUNDREDS of times his own weight. He'd be able to run much faster than any human being. He'd be able to jump HUNDREDS of feet. He'd be lifting trucks/cars/etc.. and toss them around like toys. He'd have the stamina and durability to withstand rigorous displays of strength like that.
In a forum fight, street levelers don't get writer armor/PIS/CIS to save them and they die. That's why I specifically said "in a forum fight" in the post you replied to.
Originally posted by zopzop
That's what we call writer armor/PIS/CIS Stoic.How in the hell is a peak athlete (Drake) going to beat a CL75 (minimum) powerhouse (Mammoth)? Even if he's 'bulkier' Mammoth can still lift/press HUNDREDS of times his own weight. He'd be able to run much faster than any human being. He'd be able to jump HUNDREDS of feet. He'd be lifting trucks/cars/etc.. and toss them around like toys. He'd have the stamina and durability to withstand rigorous displays of strength like that.
In a forum fight, street levelers don't get writer armor/PIS/CIS to save them and they die. That's why I specifically said "in a forum fight" in the post you replied to.
Depends. Pre Flash Mammoth had trouble lifting 5 tons, but that was way back in the Byrne or just after the Byrne era Superman. Pressure point attacks are a viable win for the less powerful and more skilled characters. Everything about comics is PIS/CIS. The idea that guys like Batman, Daredevil, Robin, and yes even Captain America landing on their feet without breaking 60% of their bones from jumping off of buildings and landing on their feet, is a mix of PIS and CIS within itself. I have no doubt, that Daredevil would beat Hyde on a regular basis if he had to. That means that it really isn't PIS.
Originally posted by Stoic
Depends. Pre Flash Mammoth had trouble lifting 5 tons,
If he just grabbed an arm or a leg and squeezed, he'd grind that appendage to dust and DD or Time Drake would go into shock or fall unconscious from the rapid loss of blood. Fight over.
Originally posted by zopzop
Think about this. Let's say he can 'only' lift 5 tons. That still doesn't help. He'd still be able to lift/press dozens of times his own weight. All his stats : speed, strength, durability, stamina would still easily be Super Human.If he just grabbed an arm or a leg and squeezed, he'd grind that appendage to dust and DD or Time Drake would go into shock or fall unconscious from the rapid loss of blood. Fight over.
If, but the problem here is that Robin and Daredevil far outclasses either of those brutes in skill, not to mention that Matt has the ability of knowing when one of them were going to strike. Comic book peak human's are actually super human by normal standards. I don't think that by forum rules that it should be considered PIS. CIS may play a large part of the loss, but I could see Robin beating Mammoth time and time again. That's all that I'm saying.
Originally posted by Stoic
If, but the problem here is that Robin and Daredevil far outclasses either of those brutes in skill, not to mention that Matt has the ability of knowing when one of them were going to strike. Comic book peak human's are actually super human by normal standards. I don't think that by forum rules that it should be considered PIS. CIS may play a large part of the loss, but I could see Robin beating Mammoth time and time again. That's all that I'm saying.
