Trump Wins

Started by dadudemon4 pages

Ellimist, you responded with quite a lot for me posting so little. All I did was state the very short fact and then quote the article. 🙁

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Maybe I'm skimming the article, but I think it also says that Millennials are more likely to identify as liberal...

No, it doesn't state that. It states, literally, "...if you compare young people now to young people in previous decades, those now are more conservative..."

It does say that young people are more polarized, for sure. But it is not more polarized in favor of liberalism. It says, "...the researchers found that the polarization that has emerged in the millennial generation may be driven by conservatives."

Originally posted by The Ellimist
1. The baby boomers will fade before the Millennials become as old as them.

What do you mean "fade"? If you mean their numbers will be greater, I agree as that has already happened: millennials now number more than Baby Boomers respective to electorate.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
2. If the Millennials end up turning right, they'll still make up a smaller share of the electorate at that age than the baby boomers will, leaving more for the next generation, which will presumably be quite liberal.

Well, based on exit polling, seems quite a very large amount of young people, compared to previous elections, voted for Trump. This is not to say that they were conservative but they voted for a conservative candidate that had very strong conservative positions (gun control (or lack thereof), immigration, etc.).

Take a look at this data (it is a lengthy read but compare like-statistics to see what I mean):

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/11/08/us/politics/election-exit-polls.html

http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/race/president/

This result/data has gotten pundits scratching their heads. They are unsure if this is Trump-esque data or if this is a new trend of a conservative backlash (I guess I should say that this is a liberal backlash...a backlash against liberals). I think a position like yours is too strong of a stance in the wrong direction to be a right one, at this time. If I were to make a guess on trends and data, it would be the opposite of yours: seems we may be more conservative in the foreseeable future than we were in the past...

But perhaps that is false and it is simply self-identification that is conservative and not actual positions? Because they say that the millennials are extremely accepting of things like drugs and the LGBTQ community compared to previous generations.

What are your thoughts?

Originally posted by The Ellimist
3. If the Millennials end up turning right, that'll likely be relative to their time, so the new republican party, if it exists, would look a lot more like the democratic one of today.

I don't know if I agree or disagree with this. I can argue both sides of it. When I get like that, it is better for me to just agree. I am not too sure, as you and I have agreed on in the past, about the future of the GOP. Perhaps Trump is the swan song of the GOP?

Originally posted by The Ellimist
In either case, the Left tends to win in the long run, but it seems like that's going to be especially true in the coming generations, thanks to the demographics shifts.

What do you mean the left tends to win? I can argue against and for you on this so perhaps you clarifying what you mean will mean we agree.

http://nypost.com/2016/11/09/yale-professor-lets-students-skip-test-in-wake-of-trump-victory/

Surtur (And Time, if he reads this) should get a kick out of this.

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It was the deleted emails that ruined Hillary's rep.

Trump shrugged off the so-called 'Trump Tapes'. He didn't give a crap even if the libs tried to pull off that stint, which they didn't.

Originally posted by cdtm
http://nypost.com/2016/11/09/yale-professor-lets-students-skip-test-in-wake-of-trump-victory/

Surtur (And Time, if he reads this) should get a kick out of this.

Bwahahahahahaha. All the local stores just ran out of play-doh and bubbles.

This is the gift that keeps on giving.

A former KMC member wants me to post this article in this thread:

"But as the returns came in, these same shellshocked experts were saying that nobody predicted this, nobody thought it could happen, nobody expected voters to turn out the way they did. "What did everyone get wrong?" CNN pondered.

Excuse us, but not everyone got it wrong.

IBD/TIPP's final numbers put Trump up by 1.6 points in a four-way race. As of 2 a.m. Wednesday morning, Trump was up by about 1 point in the popular vote. (The actual vote outcome will likely change as votes continue to be counted over the next several weeks.)

...

Not one other national poll had Trump winning in four-way polls. In fact, they all had Clinton winning by 3 or more points. For the entire run of the IBD/TIPP poll, we showed the race as being far tighter than other polls. This isn't a fluke. This will be the fourth presidential election in a row in which IBD/TIPP got it right.

The Los Angeles Times, which had employed a panel of people who were queried about their choice (and which had been ridiculed throughout the election) showed Trump up in a two-way race by 3 points.

In the final poll, Raghavan Mayur, president of IBD's polling partner Technometrica Market Intelligence, said he saw more enthusiasm for Republicans and independents. He said Republican turnout would equal Democratic turnout, despite the Democratic party's registration advantage. That appears to be the case. He said independents were breaking for Trump. That also appears to be the case.

We will have more to say about this later. But for now, we are happy to say that, according to preliminary results, IBD/TIPP has now had the most accurate presidential poll four elections in a row.

http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/ibdtipp-poll-nails-it-again/

Warning: autoplays some annoying woman's voice. Mute it.

Everyday is like Christmas morning now though. A new gift every morning? No wonder Jews love Chanukah so damn much.