Should Public Rape Accusations Become Illegal?

Inspired by the very obviously public false accusations made against Trump that could have been harmful to his campaign.

For the average ne'er-do-weller, how would the Justice Department respond if 25% of all black murder suspects were falsely accused of the crime by white accusers? Loretta Lynch would call an immediate press conference and announce he was mobilizing the national guard, the Mexican Army, and everyone who works in law enforcement to end such blatant, hateful, racist discrimination. She would, with righteous indignation, say there is much work to be done to realize the most holy Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King’s dream. A 25% false black murderer accusation rate might even incline some to believe that white people had it in for black people.

Now what if I told you that studies over the last ten years have shown that false rape accusations are likely in the ballpark of 25%, and could even be as high as 40%? Aghast, you are? Would you be inclined to think that relations between the (American) sexes had deteriorated so much that women were virtually warring against men through legal channels? Can you guess the public’s reaction to this uncomfortable truth? That’s right….. crickets.

I like the bold, clean font and the stepladder geometry of the lines. Really reaches out and grabs you by the pussy mind. Underneath, in smaller font, would be the following PSA:

25% of the accused in rape cases are exonerated by DNA evidence.

– U.S. Department of Justice.

It’s time to end the lies. Now I propose that a women who makes a public accusation without reporting the crime to police, should receive some sort of fine or punishment. What do you think?

I feel like we need to take whatever the minimum punishment is for rape and use that against liars.

Example: if in a certain state the minimum sentence for rape is 5 years..then a person lying about being raped should be jailed for 5 years. If their lies actually lead to someone being incarcerated, I want those years added on. So if in a state with a 5 year minimum for rape a woman lies and a man spends 3 years in jail before the truth is out? That woman spends 8 years in jail.

I also would love to see as much of a public uproar over women who lie about rape not being punished as we have seen over actual rapists not being punished enough. Let's not pretend being falsely accused of rape can't mess up a persons life just as much as being raped could.

Let's be honest here, rape is a draconian crime. And if my but-hole stretched as wide as a woman's clitoris, I would any day of the week, month or year take being raped over spending any more than a white collar's term time in Prison.

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
Let's be honest here, rape is a draconian crime. And if my but-hole stretched as wide as a woman's clitoris,

The Clitoris stretches? 😕 i guess that explains a few things. I thought i was doing something wrong.

As for the topic. A falsified rape accusation doesn't strike me as anymore intense than a simple theft accusation. I don't mean to imply that i think, simple theft is as egregious as rape just the accusation.

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
As for the topic. A falsified rape accusation doesn't strike me as anymore intense than a simple theft accusation. I don't mean to imply that i think, simple theft is as egregious as rape just the accusation.

I have to disagree because rape itself is more intense than theft. I know you already said that, but it is because that rape is more intense that an accusation is worse when compared to theft.

The consequences to a person are far more severe, even if they eventually do get shown to be innocent. First off, people in prison for rape tend to be in more danger from other inmates than people there for theft. Theft can be petty, rape really isn't. Stolen goods have the potential to be returned, but you can't unrape someone. Just like if you kill someone you can't undo that, hence why these types of crimes are especially heinous, they strip you of something you can't ever get back or replace.

Damage to the reputation, even if shown to be innocent, is still probably worse than if you get falsely accused of theft. If you don't get shown to be innocent, you'll be a registered sex offender for the rest of your life even after you get out of jail.

Accusing someone of rape when you know you weren't raped can have devastating effects on their life, just like if someone is actually raped.

What makes you think the allegations against Trump are false?

Originally posted by Surtur
I feel like we need to take whatever the minimum punishment is for rape and use that against liars.

Maybe if it had resulted in a false conviction. But you would have to really be careful with the beyond a reasonable doubt standard - it has to be proven with near certainty that the accuser was lying, and just pointing out inconsistencies in a story or late reporting isn't enough for that.

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
The Clitoris stretches? 😕 i guess that explains a few things. I thought i was doing something wrong.

As for the topic. A falsified rape accusation doesn't strike me as anymore intense than a simple theft accusation. I don't mean to imply that i think, simple theft is as egregious as rape just the accusation.

You're joking, right?

Originally posted by Surtur
I feel like we need to take whatever the minimum punishment is for rape and use that against liars.

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Maximum sentence which would have been awarded to the accused.

Time added on for bad behaviour.

Yes, lets deter even more women from reporting rape. That makes sense. 🙄

Originally posted by Surtur
I feel like we need to take whatever the minimum punishment is for rape and use that against liars.

Example: if in a certain state the minimum sentence for rape is 5 years..then a person lying about being raped should be jailed for 5 years. If their lies actually lead to someone being incarcerated, I want those years added on. So if in a state with a 5 year minimum for rape a woman lies and a man spends 3 years in jail before the truth is out? That woman spends 8 years in jail.

I also would love to see as much of a public uproar over women who lie about rape not being punished as we have seen over actual rapists not being punished enough. Let's not pretend being falsely accused of rape can't mess up a persons life just as much as being raped could.

Also I'm finding your stat circumspect (or rather downright false):

https://creativedestruction.wordpress.com/2006/06/06/are-33-of-convicted-rapists-exonerated-by-dna/

Could you provide some counter evidence to allay my fears that your spouting shit?

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Also I'm finding your stat circumspect (or rather downright false):

https://creativedestruction.wordpress.com/2006/06/06/are-33-of-convicted-rapists-exonerated-by-dna/

Could you provide some counter evidence to allay my fears that your spouting shit?

You do realise the feminist article linked here agrees with my stat...

Oh dear, perhaps you didn't read it properly.

The exclusion rate here is 20% or 25%, depending upon whether or not you include non-conclusive tests. [...] More seriously, this does not stand for the proposition that 20% (or 25%, or whatever) of rape convictions have been overturned or are false. Rather it refers to "sexual assault cases referred to the FBI". Most of these will not be convictions. Some of them won't even be rape.

Further, the authors themselves reject the contention that this figure can be extrapolated to the actual false conviction rate:

Some already have used the cases discussed in this report to argue that hundreds more innocent defendants are in prison. They contend that the current "exclusion" rate for forensic DNA labs -- close to 25 percent -- suggests that a similar percentage of innocent defendants were wrongly convicted before the availability of forensic DNA typing. Unfortunately, too many variables are contained in the "exclusion" rate to draw any meaningful conclusions from it. Furthermore, nothing about the cases reviewed here necessarily supports such a conclusion.

Even a single case of false conviction based upon a fabricated complaint (or for any other reason) is, of course, a disaster for the individual concerned. However it is a gross distortion to cite this report (or a figure derived from it) as supporting the contention that false rape convictions are common or that false accusations are common, or that the latter are a significant cause of former.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Oh dear, perhaps you didn't read it properly.You're dismissed.

Oh dear, it looks like you need to read properly, because none of that contradicts the stat.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Yes, lets deter even more women from reporting rape. That makes sense. 🙄

Why would this deter them from reporting a rape unless they are lying?

If there is a punishment specifically for lying about rape then nobody should be worried unless they plan to lie.

So because liars will now actually be held accountable for their actions..that would make a true rape victim not want to come forward? That just confuses me.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Awful, wow.

I know, hypocrisy and double standards tend to be awful. Why shouldn't women be held to the same standards as men? Why shouldn't they receive harsh punishments for trying to destroy someone's life?

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
Oh dear, it looks like you need to read properly, because none of that contradicts the stat.

Originally posted by Surtur
I know, hypocrisy and double standards tend to be awful. Why shouldn't women be held to the same standards as men? Why shouldn't they receive harsh punishments for trying to destroy someone's life?

That prospect doesn't appall you at all?

If your issue is with the reputation of men being tarnished, then the easy solution is to have their identity remain undisclosed until the accusations can be proven. But threatening women with potential incarceration is stupid beyond belief and benefits no one.

*There's also the added issue of rape often involving intoxication, making it difficult for the victim to accurately recall the facts, even more reason to be afraid to come forward.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
That's not the point at all, the point is you are intimidating rape victims into not coming forward. Of course is such a law was implemented their would be instances in which women were wrongly convicted, simply for being raped.*

That prospect doesn't appall you at all?

If your issue is with the reputation of men being tarnished, then the easy solution is to have their identity remain undisclosed until the accusations can be proven. But threatening women with potential incarceration is stupid beyond belief.

*There's also the added issue of rape often involving intoxication, making it difficult for the victim to accurately recall the facts, even more reason to be afraid to come forward.

The prospect doesn't appall me anymore than the prospect of innocent men being jailed over this. So no, there need to be heavy consequences for doing this.

So no, it's not stupid to give women consequences to their actions. Especially given how easily some of these women have been able to get men jailed. Sometimes based SOLELY on their word.

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