Should Public Rape Accusations Become Illegal?

Originally posted by Surtur
I don't want a flow chart, after how wrong you were in predicting the election I feel any chart you make would be suspect.

It's almost as if you're trying to pretend that you thought Trump was going to win or something. mmm

Dadudemon already pointed out the logical fallacy in this statement anyway, but I don't think you understood it, there were lots of polysyllabic words used.

Also there is no contradiction unless I said that whining in any context is always wrong. But I never did.

You keep whining about whining. I don't care what your angle or reasons are

LMFAO

"whining in some contexts is OK"

"I don't care what the context is"

Go home, Surtur. 😆

You don't seem to get it. I don't care what the context is of *your* whining. You specifically. Because we keep going around in circles. That is the effect you have on people.

Also I already am home.

I also never said I thought Trump would win. I said multiple times I didn't.

I was just making fun you, specifically you, and your wrongness. I was wrong too, but I wasn't a smug dick about it.

Take the polls for instance, I can actually understand the reasons they missed the mark. But because you were so smug with your polls and all that stuff..I just find it funny to continually point this out. In fact I definitely plan to continue acting like the fact you were wrong shows that every single thing you ever believed in is wrong.

You see because it's funny. Especially for someone with your ego.

It's so incredible how someone whose entire purpose for existing on these forums is to whine about political correctness is so obsessed with pointing out my rudeness.

I know you have 101 rationalizations lined up to explain this double standard, but the matter of fact is that you haven't thought out your "I hate political correctness" position very well. Whenever something rude or even "smug" is directed at you, you freak out. And no, claiming that it's "funny" doesn't change the point, lol.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
It's so incredible how someone whose entire purpose for existing on these forums is to whine about political correctness is so obsessed with pointing out my rudeness.

I never said you can't be rude. I'm merely saying that going back and forth with you and your constant smugness is what leads me to laugh at your butthurt.

I make fun of SJW's who get their feelings hurt over political correctness. The ones who feel they have to go into a safe space if some controversial speaker comes to their school.

I know you have 101 rationalizations lined up to explain this double standard, but the matter of fact is that you haven't thought out your "I hate political correctness" position very well. Whenever something rude or even "smug" is directed at you, you freak out. And no, claiming that it's "funny" doesn't change the point, lol.

But nobody freaked out. Nobody yelled at you or reported you. If I had put you on ignore the moment you were smug that would be the double standard.

You also continue to fail to grasp simple concepts and yet you keep talking about my intelligence. For instance, I've explained my views on political correctness more than once in that I don't feel it's just about "don't be rude" anymore. I feel like it's fleeing from ideas. Multiple posters here have had that discussion with me. So like I said, if I tried to block you because you were smug then you would have a point. Or if I reported you to a mod.

This doesn't mean I also don't think it is silly when someone is rude to someone else and that person needs some kind of safe space.

So calling it funny doesn't change the point because I don't need to change the point lol.

Lol, if our dynamic is for me to be smug and you to laugh at me for being smug, I guess neither of us can really say anything about it. But I do think that there are times when you employ this to get out of actually debating the issues, and that is a problem.

I do find your attempt to denigrate my intelligence to be pretty silly, because you and I both know that I'm smart - and trying to pretend otherwise doesn't really make for interesting conversation.

As for the OP, I actually think it's reasonable to have better privacy for defendants of criminal or civil cases until the case is actually resolved.

On the subject of punishment for women who lie about rape, this is at least a start:

Woman, 34, who LIED about being raped by an innocent man jailed for three years

Though the article is from 2014. Hopefully it might cause people to think twice before lying.

TIL: Lying about rape is worse than actually being raped

Well my post said nothing about that, but okay.

It was aimed at the thread as a whole, sport

Originally posted by Robtard
It was aimed at the thread as a whole, sport

But nobody in the thread said that either, at least not that I recall.

They are, but women as a whole don't face much punishment across the board for any sexual crimes.

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
They are, but women as a whole don't face much punishment across the board for any sexual crimes.

On top of that, they tend not to get as severe a punishment for any violent crime..compared to the amount of jail time a man would usually get for the same crime.

It's actually across all crimes at less than half the time served on average

Yep that's ridiculous, but you rarely see the feminists who say they want equality discussing those issues.

They will speak out about Brock Turner though.

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
They are, but women as a whole don't face much punishment across the board for any sexual crimes.

Hear the one about a judge who served out two different sentences for the same crime?

One was an older male with a minor. The other was an older female with a minor. Practically the same age spread. Cases happened within months of each other.

Of course, the older male got a much stiffer sentence. And the judge, when call on it, admitted he screwed up.. He said BOTH should have gotten the harsher sentence.

Doubling down bs, obviously.

The fact is though, most men do treat men and women differently, and these people are judges and lawyers. I've even seen some da's admit outright that there's a double standard, and that there SHOULD be one.

Originally posted by cdtm
Hear the one about a judge who served out two different sentences?

One was an older male with a minor. The other was an older female with a minor. Practically the same age spread. Cases happened within months of each other.

Of course, the older male got a much stiffer sentence. And the judge, when call on it, admitted he screwed up.. He said BOTH should have gotten the harsher sentence.

Doubling down bs, obviously.

You have a link to that story, I want to see how the Judge came to said decision, and what else influenced him.

Originally posted by SquallX
You have a link to that story, I want to see how the Judge came to said decision, and what else influenced him.

Looking for it now. It was years ago, so might be impossible to dig up.

But I did find this article that talks about similiar things, and justifies the disparities in sentencing on the logic that women suffer greater consequences for sex than men:

http://inpublicsafety.com/2014/08/legal-perspective-men-and-women-often-receive-disparate-sentences-in-sex-cases2536/

I also remember the story, it was in the "women seducing young boys" thread. It definitely happened.

It's just..for some reason I'm struggling to recall all of the press this story got. Surely women were up in arms over a rapist(statutory, but still a rapist) getting a lenient sentence.

It's like I know feminists must have made a big deal over it, but the memories of that have just been deleted from my mind. Weird, right?

I like the way the UK does things in regards to false accusations:

109 women prosecuted for false rape claims in five years, say campaigners