All New Spiderman vs Superman

Started by bluewaterrider6 pages
Originally posted by h1a8
Can AM be koed?
He's starts off with human level durability right?
Creed will be koed while he has the power of Superman.
It's still a win.

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Did you mistype something here?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
No limit fallacy?
Originally posted by Parmaniac
He absorbed a cosmic cube ffs

Although I agree with most everybody else, i.e. Spider-Man wins the fight with moderate difficulty, it's worth pointing out that Absorbing Man CAN absorb things that are disadvantageous to him. With the 5 years of practice mentioned in the previous post, Spider-Man's pre-cognitive warning sense, and Peter Parker's own innate intelligence, it's not likely to happen, but ...

It IS possible.

The following is a particularly interesting case of Absorbing Man Creel absorbing something bad. It has interesting implications if Creel is made into a Thor villain once again (the actual comic, contrary to what the author of this article asserts, heavily implies Creel IS directly responsible for the good brought about here).

http://www.progressiveruin.com/2010/03/08/and-then-there-was-that-time-the-absorbing-man-turned-into-cancer/

Recall again that the current Thor is Jane Foster, chemotherapy patient, as you click and read the following:

http://www.progressiveruin.com/2010/03/08/and-then-there-was-that-time-the-absorbing-man-turned-into-cancer/

Originally posted by krisblaze
Absorbing man won't see Supes coming.

He needs to be consciously aware of the attack to absorb it.

Either that or Supes wraps him in his cape and clubs him like a bag of kittens.

No prior knowledge. Supes won't know to wrap him up.

But what happens if he encounters a Kryptonian??

Celestials -> Kryptonians.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Where did you get the assumption that he's physically superior? I asked for scans of creel out doing Superman level characters. You make it seem as if he can't be beat which isnt logical et all

As stated in the scan I posted of him and the Hulk, he doesn't replace his strength and such with that of his opponents, he STACKS their stuff on top of what he already has. So Supes wouldn't be facing someone with equal stats, he'd be facing someone with his stats+Spiderman's. I'm not saying that's a huge edge(relatively speaking) by any means, but it is an edge. He's done it with the likes of Hulk and Thor, so I really don't see why he'd have difficulty doing it with Supes.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Celestials -> Kryptonians.

When did he absorb Celestials?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
When did he absorb Celestials?

Stellaris's powers are celestial in origin aren't they?

Am I way off base here? lmao

Originally posted by krisblaze
Stellaris's powers are celestial in origin aren't they?

Am I way off base here? lmao

But the MAGNITUDE was not an issue.

After all, Creel has absorbed a Cosmic Cube before.

It was the TYPE. It was too alien.

Celestial are NOT > Kryptonians, in terms of how alien they are to the MCU.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But the MAGNITUDE was not an issue.

After all, Creel has absorbed a Cosmic Cube before.

It was the TYPE. It was too alien.

Celestial are NOT > Kryptonians, in terms of how alien they are to the MCU.


Yeah but don't forget about the Mod ruling involving speed steal/Zoom and Marvel characters. We don't rule out powers working just because characters are from a different company even if powers have such limits withing their native universe.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Yeah but don't forget about the Mod ruling involving speed steal/Zoom and Marvel characters. We don't rule out powers working just because characters are from a different company even if powers have such limits withing their native universe.

Flash was unable to speed steal Zoom, because he has zero speed. NOT because he is from an alt. universe.

The argument here is different. Creel was unable to handle something too alien, something too different.

Kryptonians def fit that bill, even in DC.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Flash was unable to speed steal Zoom, because he has zero speed. NOT because he is from an alt. universe.

The argument here is different. Creel was unable to handle something too alien, something too different.

Kryptonians def fit that bill, even in DC.


They were unable to speed steal Zoom because he's not tied to the Speedforce and neither are Marvel characters. If we assume speedstealing works even against characters from other companies not connected to the speedforce, we need to assume that people like AM's powers work too and not just give characters from other companies a free pass against them.

And don't get me wrong cause I think the ruling is totally bogus, but it is what it is.

Originally posted by darthgoober
They were unable to speed steal Zoom because he's not tied to the Speedforce and neither are Marvel characters. If we assume speedstealing works even against characters from other companies not connected to the speedforce, we need to assume that people like AM's powers work too and not just give characters from other companies a free pass against them.

Of course they do - but we all know that Creel's power is specifically unable to deal with characters that are too alien. It has limits, and there is nothing more alien than a Kryptonian to Marvel.

Hell, he's alien even to DC, lol.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Of course they do - but we all know that Creel's power is specifically unable to deal with characters that are too alien. It has limits, and there is nothing more alien than a Kryptonian to Marvel.

Hell, he's alien even to DC, lol.


In that case you'd need to show that Krytonians are as "alien" to Creel as Celestial tech. He has copied stuff alien to Marvel Earth(vibranium, Quantum Bands, cosmic cube) after all, Stellaris is the only time he's encountered something too "alien" to copy. That says something about her and Celestial tech specifically, it doesn't reflect on EVERYTHING alien.

So how different is a Kryptonian to Marvel? Is there anything even remotely similar?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So how different is a Kryptonian to Marvel? Is there anything even remotely similar?

Kryptoinians don't exist in Marvel obviously, but again giving them a pass just because of that goes against the aforementioned mod ruling. We know that he's copied alien stuff before without incident except for Celestial tech, there's no reason to think he'd have issues with "absorbing" the properties of a Kryptonian. After all, there's only like a 2 chromosome difference between a Kryptoinan and a human unless I'm mistaken(and maybe not even that officially since Supes and Lois have a kid now)

Then that 2 chromosome difference could well be the decider. Am interested in seeing that!

Doubtlful. There's a lot more than a 2 chromosome difference between a human and a piece of wood after all... let along Celestial tech lol

No I meant I'm interested in seeing that there's only two chromosomes difference.