Originally posted by Silent Master
Mr. Miyagi never caught an arrow during a fight.
Miyagi has the power to one shot IPMAN, the speed, reflexes, and skill, to defend and counter.
Originally posted by h1a8
The feat proves movement speed and reflex speed which is translated toward the fight. All Miyagi CASUALLY beat two karate masters simultaneously. IP man never beat two masters simultaneously which such ease (or period).Miyagi has the power to one shot IPMAN, the speed, reflexes, and skill, to defend and counter.
By all means, post fighting clips for Miyagi that are more impressive than the one I posted for Ip man.
Originally posted by h1a8
The feat proves movement speed and reflex speed which is translated toward the fight. All Miyagi CASUALLY beat two karate masters simultaneously. IP man never beat two masters simultaneously which such ease (or period).Miyagi has the power to one shot IPMAN, the speed, reflexes, and skill, to defend and counter.
Catching an arrow is wildly impressive but he had time to prepare himself and knew it was coming and where it was going. Hell the Scorpion King did that and still got beat down by The Rock.
It's completely different in a fight where you don't know where the next blow might be coming from. And Ip Man defeated every single master in his (village?) and even beat that guy that ran thru everyone. And pretty easily too.
The 10 Karate Black Belts he fought were considered Master level, as they were handpicked by the General, who was himself a Master at Karate.
He absolutely b*tched every other established Master in Foshan to get his credibility.
He took out the Northern Guy who became his friend after that same guy brutalized every other Master in Foshan. He beat him with incredible ease and a feather duster.
He took down a Muay Thai master brought in specifically to beat him.
He's whooped dozens of armed men at a time without a single scratch.
He constantly shows superhuman stats in his fights, despite holding back.
I could go on.
Mr. Miyagi loses.
Originally posted by Tattoos N ScarsThanks for confirming that you were not joking and you are, in fact, merely retarded. 👆
You never saw the movie, I take it. The General wanted Ip Man to teach his Wing Chun style to Japanese troops. General knew Ip's style was better.It's ok though, keep being a f@g!
Originally posted by KingD19
The 10 Karate Black Belts he fought were considered Master level, as they were handpicked by the General, who was himself a Master at Karate.He absolutely b*tched every other established Master in Foshan to get his credibility.
He took out the Northern Guy who became his friend after that same guy brutalized every other Master in Foshan. He beat him with incredible ease and a feather duster.
He took down a Muay Thai master brought in specifically to beat him.
He's whooped dozens of armed men at a time without a single scratch.
He constantly shows superhuman stats in his fights, despite holding back.
I could go on.
Mr. Miyagi loses.
Those were regular top students, not masters. A master has trained many black belts.
Miyagi has the speed, reactions to counter Ip man. Most importantly, Miyagi has the power to nearly one shot Ip man.
Originally posted by h1a8
Those were regular top students, not masters. A master has trained many black belts.Miyagi has the speed, reactions to counter Ip man. Most importantly, Miyagi has the power to nearly one shot Ip man.
Yet you haven't managed to post any clips of mr. Miyagi fighting that top the one I posted for Ip Man.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Yet you haven't managed to post any clips of mr. Miyagi fighting that top the one I posted for Ip Man.
What does top mean? "Top" is not well defined.
Miyagi can casually catch arrows (speed and perception), has superhuman strength, and doesn't attack first.
The moment Ip Man attacks Miyagi will instantly counter with a strike or use his momentum against him (aikido).
Here's a clip showing Miyagi's style. Miyagi is a defense fighter (spirit of aikido), not an attacker. Ip Man does well against attackers.
It's Miyagi's style that will give Ip man problems. Doesn't attack first style. Don't attack first, Superspeed, perceptions, and superstrength ftw.
Originally posted by Silent Master
I said to post clips that topped the one I posted, not post a clip that is massively inferior. The fighting in your clip was straight shit.
So you are using subjective arguments? I'm being objective. That's why my argument is stronger than yours.
Fallacy 1:
Not only is "Top" is not well defined but you are using it in a subjective sense.
Fallacy 2: You posted a clip where Ip Man is fighting ATTACKERS. He's not fighting a defense fighter who doesn't attack first. If Ip Man attempts to attack Miyagi then it will be easily dodged or parried into an immediate counter attack. Remember Miyagi can easily catch arrows. The scene I posted shows how easily Miyagi can parry and counter.
Originally posted by h1a8
So you are using subjective arguments? I'm being objective. That's why my argument is stronger than yours.Fallacy 1:
Not only is "Top" is not well defined but you are using it in a subjective sense.Fallacy 2: You posted a clip where Ip Man is fighting ATTACKERS. He's not fighting a defense fighter who doesn't attack first. If Ip Man attempts to attack Miyagi then it will be easily dodged or parried into an immediate counter attack. Remember Miyagi can easily catch arrows. The scene I posted shows how easily Miyagi can parry and counter.
Then let's ask for a mod ruling, where they only look at these two clips, no comments from either one of us and then they vote on which person would win.
Loser gets banned for 3 months, agreed?
Originally posted by Silent Master
Then let's ask for a mod ruling, where they only look at these two clips, no comments from either one of us and then they vote on which person would win.Loser gets banned for 3 months, agreed?
Im not interested in subjective arguments. I'm interested in facts.
Fact1: Miyagi will not attack first.
Fact2. Ip Man will attack first.
Fact3: Miyagi is easily fast enough to block, dodge, or parry Ip Man's attack.
Fact4: Miyagi has the ability to counter almost instantly after the attack is thrown.
Fact5: Miyagi has superhuman strength
Fact6: Ip Man's durability is questionable.