Combat speed vs

Started by Badabing8 pages

Originally posted by carver9
I've always enjoyed seeing great combat speed and it appears most here does as well.

Question here is, minus the Flashes (Zooms included), does anyone have COMBAT showings where they are moving so fast bullet times PLUS are unable to detect them.? They are completely invisible.

Originally posted by ghostman
superman
Originally posted by carver9
You have scans




Carver, this is at least the 2nd time I've posted these exact scans for you. You seriously need to bookmark the pages where you get shown proof, or save the images. That way you won't "forget" after people show you proof. 👆

Originally posted by carver9
I don't think people know what COMBAT means. Oh well.

Since you didn't understand speed "feats" you argued for Wonder Woman in a BZ(if I'm generous and give you the benefit of the doubt that you weren't flat out lying), this is rich.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
No they don't...

I was banned two days for saying Superman is a slowpoke. -.-

😆 I question if even you believe that.

Originally posted by Delta1938
😆 I question if even you believe that. [/B]

When a character get tagged all the time since his creation 75 years ago in every comics, struggle to land a single blow on street-levelers, only deal with slow bricks in combat with no combat training in hand-to-hand, barely land one attack per panel and struggle like hell to block a single attack from the quoted slo bricks... He is clearly a slowpoke in combat.

It doesn't matter if he can accelerate his perception, all that matters is his ability to deal with people in hand-to-hand situation.

It doesn't matter how fast he can fly or run neither. You wouldn't make an argument for Usain Bolt being faster in combat than Bruce Lee because he can run faster than him, won't you ?

I understand that it's annoying that a character that you like isn't good in all areas but comic book characters have always fight at human speeds in hand-to-hand situations minus certain situations like the Flash building a lot speed before trading blows with Zoom for example. There they had extra-attacks and extra-defenses coming from their ability to build speed.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
When a character get tagged all the time since his creation 75 years ago in every comics, struggle to land a single blow on street-levelers, only deal with slow bricks in combat with no combat training in hand-to-hand, barely land one attack per panel and struggle like hell to block a single attack from the quoted slo bricks... He is clearly a slowpoke in combat.

It doesn't matter if he can accelerate his perception, all that matters is his ability to deal with people in hand-to-hand situation.

It doesn't matter how fast he can fly or run neither. You wouldn't make an argument for Usain Bolt being faster in combat than Bruce Lee because he can run faster than him, won't you ?

I understand that it's annoying that a character that you like isn't good in all areas but comic book characters have always fight at human speeds in hand-to-hand situations minus certain situations like the Flash building a lot speed before trading blows with Zoom for example. There they had extra-attacks and extra-defenses coming from their ability to build speed.

Your tears are delicious.

Re: Combat speed vs

Originally posted by carver9
I've always enjoyed seeing great combat speed and it appears most here does as well.

Question here is, minus the Flashes (Zooms included), does anyone have COMBAT showings where they are moving so fast bullet times PLUS are unable to detect them.? They are completely invisible.

Black Adam has some nice feats with Jay Garrick.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
When a character get tagged all the time since his creation 75 years ago in every comics, struggle to land a single blow on street-levelers, only deal with slow bricks in combat with no combat training in hand-to-hand, barely land one attack per panel and struggle like hell to block a single attack from the quoted slo bricks... He is clearly a slowpoke in combat.

He's not clearly a slowpoke. He is clearly a comic character who has been around for a very very long time and who has a powerset featuring numerous abilities, not just speed.

He's insanely powerful already, of course he won't be written as blitzing left and right.

It doesn't matter if he can accelerate his perception, all that matters is his ability to deal with people in hand-to-hand situation.

He doesn't need to accelerate his perceptions. Various speed feats show this.

I understand that it's annoying that a character that you like isn't good in all areas but comic book characters have always fight at human speeds in hand-to-hand situations minus certain situations like the Flash building a lot speed before trading blows with Zoom for example. There they had extra-attacks and extra-defenses coming from their ability to build speed.

It's not about being good in all areas. You also mentioned all this stuff about getting tagged by slow bricks and all that. You fail to mention the many many speed feats Superman has had over the past 75 years.

He has super speed, he has a variety of feats showing he can move and react at high speeds. Yes, he also has a shitload of appearances, so of course he's going to have low showings. Like I said his main power isn't even speed..if it was I'd assume he would use it more often.

To suggest Superman can only fight at human speeds in hand to hand just makes no actual sense. We've actually seen Superman specifically use super speed for hand to hand combat.

I don't have the issue number, but it's the same issue with Doomsday where Superman phases and allows fire breath to pass right through him. There is a part where we see him attacking Doomsday from all sides with super speed. Granted it doesn't have much of an effect, but it shows he certainly is capable of it.

I understand that people can find super speed annoying and a cheap victory. The solution to that is to either not use characters with high end speed, to turn off their speed for fights, or to put them up against an opponent where a speed advantage isn't an automatic win. The solution is not to pretend like the character doesn't have speed feats showing he can fight fast. Nor is the solution to pretend like it's impossible for us to extrapolate about certain things given a characters speed feats. Like if a character shows they have a high end reaction time and also can move their body at high speeds..even if they have never specifically used speed to fight someone, we can extrapolate that given their other feats..they could.

Comics are not DBZ where every single character has super speed and thus you see it used all the time.

Originally posted by Surtur
He's not clearly a slowpoke. He is clearly a comic character who has been around for a very very long time and who has a powerset featuring numerous abilities, not just speed.

He's insanely powerful already, of course he won't be written as blitzing left and right.

He doesn't need to accelerate his perceptions. Various speed feats show this.

It's not about being good in all areas. You also mentioned all this stuff about getting tagged by slow bricks and all that. You fail to mention the many many speed feats Superman has had over the past 75 years.

He has super speed, he has a variety of feats showing he can move and react at high speeds. Yes, he also has a shitload of appearances, so of course he's going to have low showings. Like I said his main power isn't even speed..if it was I'd assume he would use it more often.

To suggest Superman can only fight at human speeds in hand to hand just makes no actual sense. We've actually seen Superman specifically use super speed for hand to hand combat.

I don't have the issue number, but it's the same issue with Doomsday where Superman phases and allows fire breath to pass right through him. There is a part where we see him attacking Doomsday from all sides with super speed. Granted it doesn't have much of an effect, but it shows he certainly is capable of it.

I understand that people can find super speed annoying and a cheap victory. The solution to that is to either not use characters with high end speed, to turn off their speed for fights, or to put them up against an opponent where a speed advantage isn't an automatic win. The solution is not to pretend like the character doesn't have speed feats showing he can fight fast.

He's a troll(which is actually what I referred to about I question if even he believes what he said, I meant his claimed reason for getting a temp ban instead of the fact that he was trolling), so he'll just mental gymnastic his way out of "in-character."

And it was SUPERMAN(V2) #175.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
They have to be so fast that they turn invisible?

No. Read the OP. The question is simple.

Re: Re: Combat speed vs

Originally posted by Surtur
Black Adam has some nice feats with Jay Garrick.

Scans. Please read the OP.

Originally posted by Badabing
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Carver, this is at least the 2nd time I've posted these exact scans for you. You seriously need to bookmark the pages where you get shown proof, or save the images. That way you won't "forget" after people show you proof. 👆

Sigh. I never said Superman or Flash isn't fast. I think everyone here is purposely ignoring my question because I made the thread.

This thread isn't an attack towards any character, I really want to see this stuff. There's no agenda, nothing. If no one can provide what I'm asking for, then please just skip over the thread. I'll try and post showings.

Re: Combat speed vs

Originally posted by carver9
I've always enjoyed seeing great combat speed and it appears most here does as well.

Question here is, minus the Flashes (Zooms included), does anyone have COMBAT showings where they are moving so fast bullet times PLUS are unable to detect them.? They are completely invisible.

So why say...

Originally posted by carver9
No. Read the OP. The question is simple.

Genuine question here. Do they have to be fighting so quickly, that they appear invisible to their target?

Re: Re: Combat speed vs

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So why say...

Genuine question here. Do they have to be fighting so quickly, that they appear invisible to their target?

"Moving so fast that bullet timers (people like Deathstroke, Spiderman or even greater) is unable to detect them DURING combat. They are gone from their site. Moving too fast for humans to detect, I guess that's ok but it doesn't pertain to what I'm asking.

So to answer your question, yes, that's what I'm looking for.

Ah, ok.

Constantine Drakon, slitting Roy Harper's throat before he can even react - whilst FACING him. Roy even knows he has a knife in his hand....

Originally posted by Delta1938
Your tears are delicious.

Which tears ?

I am sharing my opinion.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
Which tears ?

I am sharing my opinion.

False. You're trolling and don't like you didn't get away with it.

Deadshot, whilst facing Batman, loses him from his sight:

DCnU Lobo vs Batman:

Originally posted by abhilegend
😂

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