Study Finds That Illegal Voters Have Influenced Election Results

Proof that illegal aliens and assorted non-citizens have changed the outcome of US Presidential and Congressional elections comes from this study, ( http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0261379414000973) which found :

This study examines participation rates by non-citizens using a nationally representative sample that includes non-citizen immigrants. We find that some non-citizens participate in U.S. elections, and that this participation has been large enough to change meaningful election outcomes including Electoral College votes, and Congressional elections. Non-citizen votes likely gave Senate Democrats the pivotal 60th vote needed to overcome filibusters in order to pass health care reform and other Obama administration priorities in the 111th Congress.

WOOMP DERE IT IS

Voter fraud is rampant and widespread in America, it almost entirely benefits Democreeps, and it likely altered the outcome of the 2008 Election, handing Gay Mulatto the Presidency (illegally, it turns out).

Now we can say with assurance that voter fraud affected the 2016 election, and that Trump won a much more decisive victory than his total population count would indicate, because millions of thecunt’s votes were cast by non-citizens. If voter fraud was bad enough in 2008 to change the outcome of the election, then you can bet it’s a lot worse today, eight years later during which time Democreeps and Cuckpublicans have done NOTHING to fix the problem and have, in fact, actively encouraged more non-citizens to vote by failing to pass any bill that would restrict the franchise to American citizens and make it more difficult for migrant squatters to vote a craven multikult-monger into office.

The Trumpening had better take no prisoners, because its opposite — The Cravening — has had no moral compunction disenfranchising heritage America.

Well color me surprised.

There's like a million studies from more reputable places that contradict the conclusions of this one

How about just letting POC vote?

Originally posted by Firefly218
There's like a million studies from more reputable places that contradict the conclusions of this one

How about just letting POC vote?

Originally posted by Firefly218
There's like a million studies from more reputable places that contradict the conclusions of this one

How about just letting POC vote?

Just to be clear, do you think any illegals at all voted in this latest election?

Proof that illegal aliens and assorted non-citizens have changed the outcome of US Presidential and Congressional elections comes from this study, ( http://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...261379414000973) which found :YouGov/Polimetrix

YouGov/Polimetrix Palo Alto, CA

internet-based survey

2008 2010 pre-election post-election questionaire

(n = 32,800 in 2008 and n = 55,400 in 2010)

sample selected

(339 in 2008, 489 in 2010

About one percent of the respondents in each survey identified themselves as non-citizen immigrants (339 in 2008, 489 in 2010

Of 339 non-citizens identified in the 2008 survey

Catalyst matched 140 to a commercial (e.g. credit card) and/or voter database

"For the remaining non-citizens, we have only the respondent's word to go on concerning electoral participation"

"no respondent specifically self-identified themselves as illegal or undocumented"

"many did not specifically identify themselves as having permanent resident status"

"The questionnaire asked more than 100 questions regarding electoral participation, issue preferences, and candidate choices."

"A critical question for this project is whether respondents' self-identification as non-citizens was accurate."

"If most or all of the “non-citizens” who indicated that they voted were in fact citizens who accidentally misstated their citizenship status, then the data would have nothing to contribute concerning the frequency of non-citizen voting."

Observation:

Polls Can Be Hijacked by Trolls.

http://www.pcmag.com/slideshow/story/343134/boaty-mcboatface-and-9-other-times-trolls-hijacked-online-p

So are you saying illegals didn't vote at all in this election or what.

Hey Kal.

I'm not 100% on This

Proof that illegal aliens and assorted non-citizens have changed the outcome of US Presidential and Congressional elections

Undocumented can legally vote in local elections, actually.

Nothing specifically prohibits it, so it's up to each area. Here in CT, they openly give out photo ID's and encourage voting.

Originally posted by shiv
YouGov/Polimetrix Palo Alto, CA

internet-based survey

2008 2010 pre-election post-election questionaire

(n = 32,800 in 2008 and n = 55,400 in 2010)

sample selected

(339 in 2008, 489 in 2010

About one percent of the respondents in each survey identified themselves as non-citizen immigrants (339 in 2008, 489 in 2010

Of 339 non-citizens identified in the 2008 survey

Catalyst matched 140 to a commercial (e.g. credit card) and/or voter database

"For the remaining non-citizens, we have only the respondent's word to go on concerning electoral participation"

"no respondent specifically self-identified themselves as illegal or undocumented"

"many did not specifically identify themselves as having permanent resident status"

"The questionnaire asked more than 100 questions regarding electoral participation, issue preferences, and candidate choices."

"A critical question for this project is whether respondents' self-identification as non-citizens was accurate."

"If most or all of the “non-citizens” who indicated that they voted were in fact citizens who accidentally misstated their citizenship status, then the data would have nothing to contribute concerning the frequency of non-citizen voting."

Observation:

Polls Can Be Hijacked by Trolls.

http://www.pcmag.com/slideshow/story/343134/boaty-mcboatface-and-9-other-times-trolls-hijacked-online-p

Seems very simple:

"Are you a US Citizen?"

This is polling 101. Asking a question that is intentionally designed to alter the outcome has a name...but it has been years since I studied this stuff...

f***, now my point sucks since I can't remember.

Anyway, you're not supposed to asks questions that could be confusing or cause false positives, or false negatives. Clear and concise. Especially since the results of the polling hinge upon this particular question. It is the foundation for everything else. FFS, what kind of research is that?

Just rememeber its OK when Criminal / Illegal Behavior and activities PROMOTE and ENDORSE the Leftist Progressive Agenda.

Sounds like a point for the "Are SJW's mental deficient" thread

Originally posted by cdtm
Undocumented can legally vote in local elections, actually.

Nothing specifically prohibits it, so it's up to each area. Here in CT, they openly give out photo ID's and encourage voting.

So what is the argument in terms of why illegals should be allowed to vote in any election? Surely someone has put forth an argument for why this needs to be done.

Was it just politicians who wanted to tap into that sweet sweet illegal vote who did it? Or what?

Originally posted by Surtur
So what is the argument in terms of why illegals should be allowed to vote in any election? Surely someone has put forth an argument for why this needs to be done.

Was it just politicians who wanted to tap into that sweet sweet illegal vote who did it? Or what?

Well, the rational is that if someone lives in a community, and especially sends their kids to school and such, they have a right to a say in local politics. They're a part of that community, contribute to the local economy.. (When they buy stuff, even if they get paid under the table..) and many do pay taxes.

Of course, that block of voter's is probaby a big motivation for the city/state, too. 😉

Legally speaking though (I'm not a lawyer, but I know the laws), the only restriction on the books is at the federal level. An undocumented immigrant can not vote for a federal election by law. Every other election is left to the states.

I think only legal citizens should have a say in what happens. I wouldn't illegally go into Mexico and then expect to have a say in anything.

Of course I wouldn't go into Mexico..even legally lol.

Originally posted by Firefly218
There's like a million studies from more reputable places that contradict the conclusions of this one

How about just letting POC vote?

Pretty much this, angry white people need to get over their racism already.

Friggin white devils.

Someone explain to me why a Point of Contact Vote is the final solution to the voting fraud issues?

I'd prefer a biometric voting system linked to finger-prints, personally. That would help with identifying crime, as well. It would also allow us to disallow ineligible voters (felons still on probation, for example). The votes could be tallied, instantly, and electronically, as well. No need for counting anything.

And people could fake finger prints, as well...but it would not be as easily and readily done as other types of fraud.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Someone explain to me why a Point of Contact Vote is the final solution to the voting fraud issues?

I'd prefer a biometric voting system linked to finger-prints, personally. That would help with identifying crime, as well. It would also allow us to disallow ineligible voters (felons still on probation, for example). The votes could be tallied, instantly, and electronically, as well. No need for counting anything.

And people could fake finger prints, as well...but it would not be as easily and readily done as other types of fraud.

The faking of fingerprints wouldn't be an issue. Different states applying arbitrary restrictions on people without their knowledge could be. All you would need to do is flag people to make them unable to vote then after polls close claim mistakes led to people being disallowed from voting who shouldn't have been. Apologise and then do the same at the next election.

Originally posted by jaden101
The faking of fingerprints wouldn't be an issue. Different states applying arbitrary restrictions on people without their knowledge could be. All you would need to do is flag people to make them unable to vote then after polls close claim mistakes led to people being disallowed from voting who shouldn't have been. Apologise and then do the same at the next election.

But wouldn't the likelihood of such an exclusion policy be rarer as well as more transparent and easily caught rather than illegals being used to influence the elections (w/c may well be already happening)?

It's not a fix-all solution, but I feel that the fingerprinting solution makes sense.

Originally posted by jaden101
The faking of fingerprints wouldn't be an issue. Different states applying arbitrary restrictions on people without their knowledge could be. All you would need to do is flag people to make them unable to vote then after polls close claim mistakes led to people being disallowed from voting who shouldn't have been. Apologise and then do the same at the next election.

Even $50 thumbprint scanners have stepped up their game such that it can sense that the impedance matches human flesh (to keep people from using pieces of paper with lifted prints).

The number of people who are going to try and trick even a cheap and decent finger print scanner are very few and far between. Also, the additional layer of security while also increasing the speed at which people can vote would be a nice draw. The additional layer of automatically rejecting a voter (which could be done on the backend without the voter knowing) will also prevent voter fraud.

Don't have a finger? Then you can do the in person registration voting stuff like they do for the disabled, already.

Here is a company that is already mass-producing biometric devices for voting:

http://www.m2sys.com/automated-fingerprint-identification-system-afis-voter-registration/

YouTube video

Trust me...2 million illegal immigrants trying to vote will not try to scan their fingers into a government database...very few of them are dumb enough to indirectly register themselves as voting fraudsters.