Odin vs GA Superboy Prime

Originally posted by RealityWarper
Superman Prime Quantum Jumped. That's a proof he was far from tanking the full blast.

Enduring the full blast is what caused Prime to 'quantum jump'. 🙂

Originally posted by RealityWarper
Monarch "city-level attack" badly hurt him.

Prime said Monarch's blast hurt, but the blast failed to so much as scratch him:
http://i.imgur.com/FZ09bs0.jpg

...Which is why the sensation of pain =/= sustaining legitimate physical damage. 🙂

Originally posted by RealityWarper
The Guardian Amp is limited in time and doesn't negate Superboy Prime previous showings.

While the amp is a finite energy source, it still takes a LONG f*cking time to completely deplete it. By the time Prime encountered Monarch, for example, he had already steamrolled across the multiverse(and beyond.)

The amp definitely negates most of his lower showings. Why? Because those lower showings occurred when he was NOT amped... FYI, when a character is amped it tends to take a LOT more to harm them then before. 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
Lol?

Enduring the full blast is what caused Prime to 'quantum jump'. 🙂

Lol?

Prime said Monarch's blast hurt, but the blast failed to so much as scratch him:
http://i.imgur.com/FZ09bs0.jpg

...Which is why the sensation of pain =/= sustaining legitimate physical damage. 🙂

Lol?

While the amp is a finite energy source, it still takes a LONG f*cking time to completely deplete it. By the time Prime encountered Monarch, for example, he had already steamrolled across the multiverse(and beyond.)

The amp definitely negates most of his lower showings. Why? Because those lower showings occurred when he was NOT amped... FYI, when a character is amped it tends to take a LOT more to harm them then before. 🙂

He punched into the gaddarned 5d imp-verse under the amp, and tortured Mxy so bad he didn't even feel up to teaching SBP a lesson afterwards, and just escaped.

And the fact he used an alternate Zatanna doesn't really take away from this, as it only means he strongarmed an alt Zatanna powerful enough to inhibit a 5d imp. Either way, the common denominator is SBP doing what he wants against abstract level magic.

Originally posted by Galan007
Lol?

Enduring the full blast is what caused Prime to 'quantum jump'. 🙂

Being at ground zero didn't meant that he endured the full blast, which is unlikely considering that SMP was very badly hurt by far less when he was juiced by the OA energies.

The only thing that happened was Luckyboy Prime being Quantum Jumped.

That's not an universal-durability feat, just a Quantum Jump.

Lol?

Prime said Monarch's blast hurt, but the blast failed to so much as scratch him:
http://i.imgur.com/FZ09bs0.jpg

...Which is why the sensation of pain =/= sustaining legitimate physical damage. 🙂

The pain is an indicator of damages even the wound isn't visible.

I'm pretty certain that people dying from their insides with internal bleeding have no external wounds.

The reaction of SMP to the pain is self-explanatory, if he didn't sold Monarch's attack he would have mocked him and destroyed him. That wasn't the case.

Lol?

While the amp is a finite energy source, it still takes a LONG f*cking time to completely deplete it. By the time Prime encountered Monarch, for example, he had already steamrolled across the multiverse(and beyond.)

I was sure that you would use that argument.

You are oblivious to the fact that fighting Monarch is what used-up a lot of energy from the amp.

Flying around and breaking some weaklings doesn't require the same energy expense.

The amp definitely negates most of his lower showings. Why? Because those lower showings occurred when he was NOT amped... FYI, when a character is amped it tends to take a LOT more to harm them then before. 🙂

You are acknowleging that the amp just make SBP more strong and durable which is basically what I've said.

I'm glad that we agree that SBP lacks of self-awareness and combat skills puts him at disadvantage against Odin with his centuries of experience in combat.

SMP believes himself as invincible and will act reckless contrary to Thanos whom is an experienced fighter.

Odin chances to beat Superman Prime are at 99.9 % mininmum.

I call that a stomp.

Originally posted by cdtm
He punched into the gaddarned 5d imp-verse under the amp, and tortured Mxy so bad he didn't even feel up to teaching SBP a lesson afterwards, and just escaped.

Mxy was depowered. That's self-explanatory.

And the fact he used an alternate Zatanna doesn't really take away from this, as it only means he strongarmed an alt Zatanna powerful enough to inhibit a 5d imp. Either way, the common denominator is SBP doing what he wants against abstract level magic.

Mxy was repowered. He didn't one-shot Prime for in-character Psychological Induced Plot Stupidity reasons.

He stated himself that he could turn SBP inside-out.

Its more likely the blast shredded his clothes and koed him rather than a Quantum jump nice try though 👆

Originally posted by RealityWarper
Being at ground zero didn't meant that he endured the full blast, which is unlikely considering that SMP was very badly hurt by far less when he was juiced by the OA energies.

The only thing that happened was Luckyboy Prime being Quantum Jumped.

That's not an universal-durability feat, just a Quantum Jump.

The pain is an indicator of damages even the wound isn't visible.

I'm pretty certain that people dying from their insides with internal bleeding have no external wounds.

The reaction of SMP to the pain is self-explanatory, if he didn't sold Monarch's attack he would have mocked him and destroyed him. That wasn't the case.

I was sure that you would use that argument.

You are oblivious to the fact that fighting Monarch is what used-up a lot of energy from the amp.

Flying around and breaking some weaklings doesn't require the same energy expense.

You are acknowleging that the amp just make SBP more strong and durable which is basically what I've said.

I'm glad that we agree that SBP lacks of self-awareness and combat skills puts him at disadvantage against Odin with his centuries of experience in combat.

SMP believes himself as invincible and will act reckless contrary to Thanos whom is an experienced fighter.

Odin chances to beat Superman Prime are at 99.9 % mininmum.

I call that a stomp.

Good post.

Originally posted by Galan007
Lol?

Enduring the full blast is what caused Prime to 'quantum jump'. 🙂

Lol?

Prime said Monarch's blast hurt, but the blast failed to so much as scratch him:
http://i.imgur.com/FZ09bs0.jpg

...Which is why the sensation of pain =/= sustaining legitimate physical damage. 🙂

Lol?

While the amp is a finite energy source, it still takes a LONG f*cking time to completely deplete it. By the time Prime encountered Monarch, for example, he had already steamrolled across the multiverse(and beyond.)

The amp definitely negates most of his lower showings. Why? Because those lower showings occurred when he was NOT amped... FYI, when a character is amped it tends to take a LOT more to harm them then before. 🙂

Originally posted by RealityWarper
Being at ground zero didn't meant that he endured the full blast

Originally posted by RealityWarper
The pain is an indicator of damages even the wound isn't visible.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
Flying around and breaking some weaklings doesn't require the same energy expense.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
You are acknowleging that the amp just make SBP more strong and durable which is basically what I've said.

I'm glad that we agree that SBP lacks of self-awareness and combat skills puts him at disadvantage against Odin with his centuries of experience in combat.

Superboy was bloodied from an attack that possessed less force than a galaxy.

Odin one shots.

Odin got his ass beat and enslaved by ants Prime wrecks him 😐

Originally posted by Galan007
Proof that Prime did not endure the full blast, please. 🙂

The fact that he was destroyed by far less than that...

You yourself said that SBP endured an universal-blast because all of Oa energies were used-up.

1) Far weaker energy projection harming him.
2) The fact that he Quantum Jumped.

Those two things are proof that he didn't tank the full blast.

Proof that Prime sustained any physical injuries at all, please. 🙂

He himself admitted that the blast hurted him.

Yes, because that's all he did. Lmao. 🙂

The story shows otherwise.

You're just nonsensically rambling here. 🙂

I'm not rambling and your argument from ignorance (you don't understand the sense of what I am saying) is not an argument at all.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
The fact that he was destroyed by far less than that...

Per on panel evidence, Prime was struck by the full extent of Monarch's energies at ground zero. Being struck by said energy is what caused him to 'quantum jump'. Simple. 🙂

Originally posted by RealityWarper
He himself admitted that the blast hurted him.

Again, that blast didn't even scratch Prime, and he continued attacking immediately afterward. Absolutely NOTHING alludes to him being physically harmed. Simple. 🙂

Originally posted by RealityWarper
The story shows otherwise.

Forerunner.

Knocked Monarch off his feet. The same Monarch who didn't even awknowledge attacks from masses of Supermen, GL's, Captain Atom's.

SMP pretty much manhandled her, like no one had before or since.

RealityWarper, does Jane Thor deserve to be ranked just below, Odin?

Originally posted by cdtm
Forerunner.

Knocked Monarch off his feet. The same Monarch who didn't even awknowledge attacks from masses of Supermen, GL's, Captain Atom's.

SMP pretty much manhandled her, like no one had before or since.

Originally posted by Galan007
[B]So no proof at all, then..? Just a baseless opinion..? Cool. 🙂

It's an observation.

Your opinion, on the other hand, is completely baseless as you chose to ignore the effect of the Quantum Jump.

Per on panel evidence, Prime was struck by the full extent of Monarch's energies at ground zero.

No.

The energies made him Quantulm Jump so he obviously didn't tank much.

Being struck by said energy is what caused him to 'quantum jump'. Simple. 🙂

I am glad you acknowledge that Prime never tanked the full extent of the energies, considering that Captain Atom himself doesn't need to absorb the energies necessary to destroy one universe when he Quantum Jump himself.

Pain =/= legitimate physical injury. 🙂

The pain is a signal send by the body to warn from an injury. Educate yourself on the topic.

Again, that blast didn't even scratch Prime, and he continued attacking immediately afterward. Absolutely NOTHING alludes to him being physically harmed. Simple. 🙂

The fact that Prime yells that he is really really hurt clearly shows that he is wounded.

You are in denial.

You should probably go back and reread his appearances if you think that's all he did before confronting Monarch. 🙂

I have read them enough.

As I said his boost in physical stats doesn't make him a better fighter.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
RealityWarper, does Jane Thor deserve to be ranked just below, Odin?

Jane Thor wasn't alone.

She had the help of a sentient Mjolnir to help her.

She was basically fighting Odin with the help of an Omega-Class Skyfather weapon.

Mjolnir had a some degrees of self-awareness that he never showed when Odinson faced his father.

That's the big difference between both.

Originally posted by cdtm
Forerunner.

Knocked Monarch off his feet. The same Monarch who didn't even awknowledge attacks from masses of Supermen, GL's, Captain Atom's.

SMP pretty much manhandled her, like no one had before or since.

Monarch dominated the fight but got too cocky and let SMP omes in hand-to-hand where he could exert his lifting strength.

Knowing the full extent of Monarch powers he could have won this combat just by teleporting and continuing to blast SMP.

Odin creates a Red Sun to replace the Yellow one.

Mismatch.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
Jane Thor wasn't alone.

She had the help of a sentient Mjolnir to help her.

She was basically fighting Odin with the help of an Omega-Class Skyfather weapon.

Mjolnir had a some degrees of self-awareness that he never showed when Odinson faced his father.

That's the big difference between both.

you haven't answered the question.

Does Jane Thor deserve to be ranked just below, Odin?