Originally posted by carver9
He always have a meltdown. KMC (debating period) is too much for him. 🙂
After how our kickball "champ" handled being exposed for playing in a MIXED GENDER league, it's hilarious quan would say someone is having a meltdown.
In fact, quan reminds me of Fallon Fox. Couldn't handle competing with men so had a sex change to professionally fight women, then defended the choice desperately. Except Fox is still more of a man than quan could hope to be.
And it's pretty sad that even when a zeta "male" like quan largely gives up on convincing everybody of her alpha status, you're still a submissive beta to her. 🙁
Also, I can't handle debating yet you dodged my Battlezone challenge and did everything from try to change it to make excuses to pretend you didn't remember it?
Originally posted by RealityWarperAfter reading this post, I am now 100% certain that you have not even read the material in question, and are just making shit up at this point -- it's sad, tbh. Though I'm not sure why I expected anything different..? You are the same guy who believes Sentry is an omniversal power, ffs. 😂
It's an observation.
Anyway, I'm done with this. You can go ahead and take the last word(we all know you desperately crave it anyhow.) I cannot indulge your slapstick 'debating' idiocy any further… 🙂
Originally posted by Delta1938The meltdown continues.
After how our kickball "champ" handled being exposed for playing in a MIXED GENDER league, it's hilarious quan would say someone is having a meltdown.In fact, quan reminds me of Fallon Fox. Couldn't handle competing with men so had a sex change to professionally fight women, then defended the choice desperately. Except Fox is still more of a man than quan could hope to be.
And it's pretty sad that even when a zeta "male" like quan largely gives up on convincing everybody of her alpha status, you're still a submissive beta to her. 🙁
Also, I can't handle debating yet you dodged my Battlezone challenge and did everything from try to change it to make excuses to pretend you didn't remember it?
Originally posted by RealityWarper
The Kryptonite was made by the other character so I have no problem to see Odin doing the same feat.
It was because Element Lad there was from Earth Prime. If it is Kryptonite from another universe, created by someone who is NOT from Earth Prime, then it does not work:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/13/132594/2685147-fs_kryptonite1.jpg
Even 'natural' Kryptonite does not harm him:
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/3sup.jpg
So even if Odin whips K-nite up, it's not hurting him.
After reading this post, I am now 100% certain that you have not even read the material in question,/[QUOTE]I own the issues on my computer.
You are jumping to conclusions without proof, that's consistent with your character.
[QUOTE]and are just making shit up at this point
You are projeting.
-- it's sad, tbh. Though I'm not sure why I expected anything different..?
Who cares about what you expected ?
You are taking the most favorable issue for your character and completely neglect the context.
It is proved that Superboy Prime was Quantum Jumped by the quantum energies.
You are the same guy who believes Sentry is an omniversal power, ffs. laughing out loud
That's a poor attempt at discrediting me with a red herring.
I have discussed that point many times and that's not the place to do it.
You are clearly out-of-arguments so your concession is accepted.
Anyway, I'm done with this.
*applause*
You can go ahead and take the last word(we all know you desperately crave it anyhow.)
It is not about who take the last word, it's about who give the best arguments.
I usually let go a topic when I've said everything I've had to say, whatever if the pseudo-arguments with no understanding of the context are made after like in the "Robert reynolds" thread... But that's another topic.
After making baseless arguments you still enjoy to completely make-up baseless accusations. That's amusing.
I cannot indulge your slapstick 'debating' idiocy any further… smile
And you end all of that marvelous post on a judgemental sentence flavoured with some Argument from Incredulity.
Hats off.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It was because Element Lad there was from Earth Prime. If it is Kryptonite from another universe, created by someone who is NOT from Earth Prime, then it does not work:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/13/132594/2685147-fs_kryptonite1.jpgEven 'natural' Kryptonite does not harm him:
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/3sup.jpgSo even if Odin whips K-nite up, it's not hurting him.
What stops Odin to create the same kind of Kryptonite exactly ?
I don't see why Kryptonites from different universes couldn't be seen as different isotopes of the same material.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/isotope
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any of two or more forms of a chemical element, having the same number of protons in the nucleus, or the same atomic number, but having different numbers of neutrons in the nucleus, or different atomic weights. There are 275 isotopes of the 81 stable elements, in addition to over 800 radioactive isotopes, and every element has known isotopic forms. Isotopes of a single element possess almost identical properties.
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In physics, different forms of the same element, with nuclei that have the same number of protons but different numbers of neutrons. Isotopes are distinguished from each other by giving the combined number of protons and neutrons in the nucleus. For example, uranium 235 is the isotope of uranium that has 235 protons and neutrons in its nucleus rather than the more commonly occurring 238. All elements have isotopes.
Originally posted by RealityWarper
What stops Odin to create the same kind of Kryptonite exactly ?I don't see why Kryptonites from different universes couldn't be seen as different isotopes of the same material.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/isotope
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any of two or more forms of a chemical element, having the same number of protons in the nucleus, or the same atomic number, but having different numbers of neutrons in the nucleus, or different atomic weights. There are 275 isotopes of the 81 stable elements, in addition to over 800 radioactive isotopes, and every element has known isotopic forms. Isotopes of a single element possess almost identical properties.isotope [( eye -suh-tohp)]
[B]In physics, different forms of the same element, with nuclei that have the same number of protons but different numbers of neutrons. Isotopes are distinguished from each other by giving the combined number of protons and neutrons in the nucleus. For example, uranium 235 is the isotope of uranium that has 235 protons and neutrons in its nucleus rather than the more commonly occurring 238. All elements have isotopes.
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Because different isotopes of K-nite are red, purple, blue and so on.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Because different isotopes of K-nite are red, purple, blue and so on.
Wrong. They are completely new different elements.
Different isotopes of the Green Kryptonite would be called Green Kryptonite.
http://www.encyclopedia.com/science-and-technology/physics/physics/isotope
Isotopes are two forms of an element with the same atomic number but different mass number. The existence of isotopes can be understood by reviewing the structure of atoms.
What stops Odin to produce the isotope of the Green K from Earth-1 exactly ? Considering that Odin is nigh-omniscient.
Anyway I already proven that Odin has the advantage agaisnt Prime in my previous posts.
Odin is omniscent?
He never seemed to be against, say, the Celestials. Or Surtur. Or Dr. Doom. Or Loki. Or Thor.
That would put him above God Emperor Doom, who was specifically stated as NOT omniscent.
Even against the Beyonders.. No one in the Marvel Omniverse, not a one, was omniscent enough to predict what was being done to the MU. Only Doom could figure it out and come up with a strategy..
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Wrong. They are completely new different elements.Different isotopes of the Green Kryptonite would be called Green Kryptonite.
http://www.encyclopedia.com/science-and-technology/physics/physics/isotope
[B]Isotopes are two forms of an element with the same atomic number but different mass number. The existence of isotopes can be understood by reviewing the structure of atoms.
What stops Odin to produce the isotope of the Green K from Earth-1 exactly ? Considering that Odin is nigh-omniscient.
Anyway I already proven that Odin has the advantage agaisnt Prime in my previous posts. [/B]
Handbooks aren't quite admissible as proof here, sport.
And using the Teen Titans as a low showing for SBP (who is now amped, mind), is like using space ants for Odin:
I don't think anyone should be using low showings, period.
Aside from that, the assumption that Odin would be able to discern which specific type of k-nite Prime is weak to, implies some level of multiversal awareness(as only one type of k-nite in the multiverse can affect him.)
Does Odin have said multiversal awareness? If not, then how exactly would he happen upon this knowledge?
Originally posted by carver9
Can someone explain to me how powerful those space ants were? It's like using Konvikt as a low showing for Superman posting those scans as evidence of low balling imo. I thought we gauge characters based off their showings?
They were falling and dying to normal Asgardian weaponry. As it says in the scan :-)
Originally posted by cdtm
Odin is omniscent?He never seemed to be against, say, the Celestials. Or Surtur. Or Dr. Doom. Or Loki. Or Thor.
That would put him above God Emperor Doom, who was specifically stated as NOT omniscent.
Even against the Beyonders.. No one in the Marvel Omniverse, not a one, was omniscent enough to predict what was being done to the MU. Only Doom could figure it out and come up with a strategy..
He is supposed to be nigh-omniscient.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Handbooks aren't quite admissible as proof here, sport.And using the Teen Titans as a low showing for SBP (who is now amped, mind), is like using space ants for Odin:
I don't think anyone should be using low showings, period.
So you are saying that the information that I posted about the Kryptonite are wrong ?
Prove that they are wrong.
I think that every is usable when the context is clear.
The feats of SBP against the Teen Titans is perfectly clear and that's not a low showing.
SBP has lost to the Teen Titans despite he had a team with 3 Superboy-clones in it...
He was wrecked because his fighting ability is too low against an organized team.
Odin is perfectly capable to put the shit out of that team by himself.
In terms of combat experience Odin is ways above SBP whatever he is amped or not...
The core of the debate is about Odin being perfectly capable to counter everything that SMP can throw at him and winning.
