Count Dooku vs. B Team

Originally posted by Rebel95
Is that what he said? No, all he said was that he performed better than the B team. He doesn't say anything about the context of the fight. I agree that savage is better than anyone in the B Team, but now you're just making stuff up.

He's not making anything up. Filoni does give context. He specifically credits Savage for his better performance, and doesn't put it down to Palpatine.

Otherwise why did he even bring it up?

Now I personally don't have Savage above Fisto in Sabers. But trying to add context to Filoni's words which he never implied is outright deceiving. Filoni said that, and I'm just calling out the double standards on when people choose to take his words as Canon and when they selectively choose to ignore him.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
He's not making anything up. Filoni does give context. He specifically credits Savage for his better performance, and doesn't put it down to Palpatine.

Otherwise why did he even bring it up?

Now I personally don't have Savage above Fisto in Sabers. But trying to add context to Filoni's words which he never implied is outright deceiving. Filoni said that, and I'm just calling out the double standards on when people choose to take his words as Canon and when they selectively choose to ignore him.

Originally posted by Rebel95
Is that what he said? No, all he said was that he performed better than the B team. He doesn't say anything about the context of the fight. I agree that savage is better than anyone in the B Team, but now you're just making stuff up.

Filoni directed the episode of course he's taking into account that Sidious was holding back. Its right after it plays a clip of the bloody fight. Also he says this:

"You know being taken out by Sidious, pretty good, it ranks up there, he puts up a better fight than the Jedi Council did I'll say that much for him."

He's clearly wanted to show Savage wasn't as much of a chump in the scene as Kit, and the rest of the Councilors. That's why when Sidious kills him he has to put in WAY more effort than when he kills the Councilors. I really don't understand how you can watch that clip and think Filoni's intention was anything other than Savage>B-Team.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
If he abuses his power, Dooku.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
Ventress pre-prime solidly defeated Fisto who I consider to be a head above the other two. +Filoni flat out states Savage (roughly on par with Ventress) fares far better than these 3 against Sidious.

Ventress is also far above these guys in the force.

When does Ventress beat Fisto?

In Cestus Deception.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
Filoni directed the episode of course he's taking into account that Sidious was holding back. Its right after it plays a clip of the bloody fight. Also he says this:

"You know being taken out by Sidious, pretty good, it ranks up there, he puts up a better fight than the Jedi Council did I'll say that much for him."

He's clearly wanted to show Savage wasn't as much of a chump in the scene as Kit, and the rest of the Councilors. That's why when Sidious kills him he has to put in WAY more effort than when he kills the Councilors. I really don't understand how you can watch that clip and think Filoni's intention was anything other than Savage>B-Team.

Pretty much, yeah. It's silly even arguing this.

People are welcome to make the case that Fisto =/> Savage. But Filoni's belief on it is pretty clear and states the opposite.

He also had an edge over Plo Koon before growing more powerful, Savage is above Council-tier yeah.

Obviously Savage is above any of the Council Members individually. Not above all three, though 😬

Point is: Savage, whether superior or inferior to Agen/Kit/Saesee, wouldn't have faired better than them against an all-out Sheev.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Obviously Savage is above any of the Council Members individually. Not above all three, though 😬

Yeah but it's not like Sheev actually fought the 3 of them simultaneously.

Originally posted by MythLord
Point is: Savage, whether superior or inferior to Agen/Kit/Saesee, wouldn't have faired better than them against an all-out Sheev.

Well Fisto faired better than the other 2, so there's no reason to say Savage wouldn't fair better than Fisto (in Sabers), even if it means just blocking 2-3 more strikes than he did.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
He also had an edge over Plo Koon before growing more powerful, Savage is above Council-tier yeah.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Pretty much, yeah. It's silly even arguing this.

People are welcome to make the case that Fisto =/> Savage. But Filoni's belief on it is pretty clear and states the opposite.

Thor still struggling after all these years with Sheev effortlessly curbing Savage and Maul.

Make up your mind bro.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Thor still struggling after all these years with Sheev effortlessly curbing Savage and Maul.

Make up your mind bro.

I could sense this topic would attract you out of retirement. But please pay attention before commenting:

1) This is about Savage and the B-Team. Has little to do with Palpatine.

2) It's not even about my opinion, but about Filoni's.

3) It's not even me who brought it up.

Your perpetual issue is that Savage is fodder for the Emperor, just like the B-Team crew.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Your perpetual issue is that Savage is fodder for the Emperor, just like the B-Team crew.

Lol where have I stated or even hinted I had an issue with that as of late?

Heck Savage is almost fodder even for Maul, Obi-Wan or Dooku.

So you embrace the fact that Sheev is better than your favorite characters in all ways, including but not limited to importance, success, power, strength, skill, speed, agility, reflexes, knowledge, mastery, charisma, intellect, and sexual prowess?

All except the sexual prowess.

Anakin was never hard for Palpatine the way Ezra is for Maul.

Damn... Sheev has less sexual prowess than a dude with no penis?

You gonna take that sick burn Temp?