Originally posted by carver9
Cyclops is faster, more accurate and just overall better. Cyclops kills him.
Lol. So no reply to the AoE attack which has taken out BL Zoom (who is faster and more lethal than Cyclops)?
I've shown in character, Snart freezing an entire skyscraper, and the entirety of Iron Heights with one attack. He wouldn't hesitate to use it in a city (as seen with the skyscraper).
In character, Cyke will fire pin point blasts in a crowded area over the distance of a city block? Scans.
Snart has some pretty badass reaction feats too. Good enough to pull the majority.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol. So no reply to the AoE attack which has taken out BL Zoom (who is faster and more lethal than Cyclops)?I've shown in character, Snart freezing an entire skyscraper, and the entirety of Iron Heights with one attack. He wouldn't hesitate to use it in a city (as seen with the skyscraper).
In character, Cyke will fire pin point blasts in a crowded area over the distance of a city block? Scans.
Snart has some pretty badass reaction feats too. Good enough to pull the majority.
Zoom was fighting someone else. How is that even relevant in a fight like this? That's like me posting this (even though this is more impressive)...
Freezing an entire landscape? Is that better than what Cyclops has done? Also, let's not forget the accuracy advantage Cyclops carries here.
Lol...yes he can shoot destructive blasts from a distance. Here he shoots through a Sentinel that is more durable than Cold across the sea and blast clean through it...
http://i.imgur.com/ghG0bDk.jpg
Here is more distance showings as well.
Such a pity your pretty scans are all....inadmissible (which you will no doubt gloss over, and attempt to move on with).
Scans of Cyke doing any of those shots....whilst in a crowded city like Midtown Manhattan, please. Which is what I asked for.
It's relevant because it negates the accuracy advantage. With one action, Cold can freeze the entire battlefield (with Cyclops and everyone else) before Cyclops can even pick him out from the crowd, aim, and fire. None of your showings show Cyclops doing anything even remotely similar, in a crowded city.
They just show gigantic death beams, which would kill everyone in their path before hitting Cold. If you have scans of Cyke doing so, again, please, post them.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Such a pity your pretty scans are all....inadmissible (which you will no doubt gloss over, and attempt to move on with).Scans of Cyke doing any of those shots....whilst in a crowded city like Midtown Manhattan, please. Which is what I asked for.
It's relevant because it negates the accuracy advantage. With one action, Cold can freeze the entire battlefield (with Cyclops and everyone else) before Cyclops can even pick him out from the crowd, aim, and fire. None of your showings show Cyclops doing anything even remotely similar, in a crowded city.
They just show gigantic death beams, which would kill everyone in their path before hitting Cold. If you have scans of Cyke doing so, again, please, post them.
I recall Scott shooting multiple targets simultaneously as well as shooting one huge beam and using it at varying degrees of strength on multiple targets. But im not doing anyones homework for them.
Gotta question though how long can Cold sustain his blast field?
Long enough. That is to say, they haven't melted even when surrounded by Heatwaves' fire, so without a source of heat, it would last even longer. Certainly long enough to get the win.
That is, if he doesn't actually just freeze Cyke to death.
The problem is getting scans of Cyclops' accuracy, whilst in a crowd, over a long distance. Not to mention, the power of his blasts over such a long distance.
For it to travel over a block, it will need to be powerful, otherwise the energy dissipates. This goes the same for ricochet shots.
It will also need to be tiny. All of carvers scans show huge ass death beams, which would hit people along the way.
They also show his targets in front of Cyke, not a block away.
IOW, Cyke needs to be a sniper.
Originally posted by staxamillion
clops accurately ricocheting while under duressI want to add that if Cold isn't willing to get dirtier than clops which may go against his character I don't think he can win.
I could see clops actually disarming cold with a ricochet
That's not over a city block, nor is it in a crowded city.
im not sure it is needed. there are scans showing accuracy and Cyclops could keep a beam projecting until the target is met.
if he can punch a pinhole into the blob im sure he has enough force power to make one block. but no scans sorry
if having to freeze the entire block is cold's play then yeah but it might be his only play. kinda like using a grenade to kill a fly. I cant see anyone scans certain sites are blocked at my job.
All the accuracy shots though are in empty rooms etc.
It's like ricocheting a basketball into a net. Can I do it? Probably. But make it a crowded room, with zero margin for error (I.e if it touches anyone, they're dead)? No.
Moreover, doing it before someone else flash freezes' me (said person also doesn't care if others get frozen)? Def not.
These are all moving targets by the way....pretty good feat for Cyke yes?
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5779865
Would Cold immediately go for the freezing the block action right out of the gate? Wouldn't that cause causalities that he has a code against?
