Cyclops Vs Captain Cold

Originally posted by Surtur
It seems this would come down to a quick draw, so who has the better reflexes?

Being a Flash villain isn't enough, because not all of them have enhanced reaction time.

That's my point.

The battleground heavily favours a villain, even one with a moral code like Cold.

His freezing doesn't necessarily kill people, so it wouldn't be breaking it.

But, IMO, he can freeze the entire area quicker than Cyclops can aim and fire at him in a dense crowd, across a city block. This is ignoring the whole ricochet thing, lol, and assuming he manages to see Cold and fire directly at him (without hitting ANY bystanders).

He would have to be doubly/triply sure he doesn't hit anyone along the way, because if it is powerful enough to KO Cold from across a city block, it's gonna be pretty damn potent 1 ft away from him, lol.

Since the absolute zero cold field slows down the speed force (Which is generally immune to the elements), would it also slow down Cyke's energy?

Originally posted by cdtm
Since the absolute zero cold field slows down the speed force (Which is generally immune to the elements), would it also slow down Cyke's energy?

There is also that.

The field also moves around with him, like a personal shield.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That's my point.

The battleground heavily favours a villain, even one with a moral code like Cold.

His freezing doesn't necessarily kill people, so it wouldn't be breaking it.

But, IMO, he can freeze the entire area quicker than Cyclops can aim and fire at him in a dense crowd, across a city block. This is ignoring the whole ricochet thing, lol, and assuming he manages to see Cold and fire directly at him (without hitting ANY bystanders).

He would have to be doubly/triply sure he doesn't hit anyone along the way, because if it is powerful enough to KO Cold from across a city block, it's gonna be pretty damn potent 1 ft away from him, lol.

I suppose it is true Cyclops would have a great chance at victory if morals were turned off.

I do get being worried about bystanders, but wouldn't Cyclops also be worried about what Cold is going to do to all those bystanders once he is is dead? Since it might be common knowledge Cold is a villain, but I'm guessing his specific moral code isn't common knowledge.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I don't doubt it.

I doubt his ability to fire a beam so potent it crosses a block, and can KO Cold, without hitting anyone else along the way.

Either through ricochets or a direct blast. Carvers acans show him firing blasts that, in a crowded busy street, would result in people dying lol.

Eh, he's shown the ability to do really complex shit with his blasts, even multiple reflections, but it would be hard to do it without hitting anyone.

I honestly think he's actually capable of it, but he's not really been put in that position before in the comics so it's just my word really.

Originally posted by Surtur
I suppose it is true Cyclops would have a great chance at victory if morals were turned off.

I do get being worried about bystanders, but wouldn't Cyclops also be worried about what Cold is going to do to all those bystanders once he is is dead? Since it might be common knowledge Cold is a villain, but I'm guessing his specific moral code isn't common knowledge.

Generaly, the Rogue's are known for having a moral code.

Snart from the TV show pulls from the comic version in that regard. And flash freezing in comics is generaly reversable/non fatal.

He's also anti-drug. He beat the shit out of mirror master for doing cocoaine. MM knew cold wouldn't approve and tried to do it all sneaky like

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I don't doubt it.

I doubt his ability to fire a beam so potent it crosses a block, and can KO Cold, without hitting anyone else along the way.

Either through ricochets or a direct blast. Carvers acans show him firing blasts that, in a crowded busy street, would result in people dying lol.

Is this battle in an crowded area?

Originally posted by carver9
Is this battle in an crowded area?

Because Midtown Manhattan is the picture of rural American wide open spaces.

Saint: You should also post the scan of Captain Cold creating a force field to block Weather Wizard's LIGHTNING.

Going with Cold here.

http://i.imgur.com/LQnMcMm.jpg

Originally posted by Zack M
Saint: You should also post the scan of Captain Cold creating a force field to block Weather Wizard's LIGHTNING.

Going with Cold here.

http://i.imgur.com/LQnMcMm.jpg

Originally posted by zopzop
Man there's some sweet feats for Cold posted in this thread. Prep, did his shield hold? Or did the lightening bolt get through it?

Not entirely sure, but here are more scans. Even shows Weather Wizard engulfing Cold in a tornado. Both are going all out!

http://fastestfanalive.com/page/32

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
There is also that.

The field also moves around with him, like a personal shield.

I originally said i didnt know if CC would do this to Cyke. Now though, i definitely give CC a healthy majority.

Since this is in a population which ruins this thread and makes this a pointless battle. Captain Cold wins.

Lol, damn you riv for changing the rules so late in the game!!!!

^^^What rules?
While we're at it thanks for helping me make up my mind on a winner.

Originally posted by carver9
Since this is in a population which ruins this thread and makes this a pointless battle. Captain Cold wins.

Was a joke....carver didn't read the OP, and came in all guns blazing. Then threw a hissy fit.

^^^Just making sure.
Overexposure to Carver tends to confuse me!

Not sure if Cold is being dick ridden or people are just ignorant to how beastly Scott is...hmmmm

How beastly is he in a crowd of civilians?