TPM Plagueis and Darth Revan vs Darth Vader and Nihilus

Originally posted by nfactor1995
Revan beats Nihilus (*Awaits the imminent hatred*)
Plagueis beats Vader
OR
Plagueis beats Nihilus
Vader beats Revan
Then Plagueis beats Vader.

So Team 1 wins. 😄

Aside from Revan beating Nihilus, it is.

Originally posted by darthbane77
This is accurate.

Me beating your meat is.

Plagueis muses that there is not a single Force technique he cannot attain by a simple effort of will. If you buy into this, it means Plagueis could simply resist Nihilus by willing himself to do it, even if he doesn't know the technique.

Even if you don't buy into it, you'd still have to prove that Nihilus can drain someone as powerful as Plagueis before the latter slices him up with his lightsaber. Or in other words: instantaneously.

Sorry, I don't buy into Plagueis having a literal plot convenience ability that allows him to defend against any attack simply by willing it...

Like he did against Palpatine's Force lighting?

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Like he didn't against Palpatine's Force lighting?

Yep.

Glad we are agreed on that then. 🙂

Do you also concede that Nihilus literally having a power against which nothing can defend against is every bit the plot convenience ability that we have no reason to buy into?

Good.

Moving on, if Sever Force powers do indeed involve causing the mass die off of midichlorians as Plagueis believed, it stands to reason he could will them into action to defend against it. Other than that, there is no reason to believe Nihilus drain will be effective against someone more powerful than him besides Traya's unsubstantiated musings.

Reread that Beni.

Except he doesn't. Force drains scales proportionally to the gap in power between two individuals as shown with Krayt, Abeloth and Luke.

What's good ( my nigga )?

How would midichlorians defend against their own death? And tbh I don't really think Plagueis is more powerful then him honestly.

Plagueis is canonically more powerful, lmao.

*Shrug* Depends on if you consider Nihilus a Sith. I don't see any reason to other then Traya dubbing him one.

And objective Sources saying that he is.

Depends.

If Plagueis fights Nihilus and Vader fights Darth Revan, I could see Plagueis struggling with Nihilius long enough for Vader to kill Revan and they could take out Plagueis together.

If Plagueis fights Vader and Nihilus fights Revan, Plagueis would kill Vader and Nihilus would kill Revan, and then Plagueis would kill Nihilus most likely.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
And objective Sources saying that he is.

If he were to be considered a Sith, yeah.

Originally posted by Rebel95
Depends.

If Plagueis fights Nihilus and Vader fights Darth Revan, I could see Plagueis struggling with Nihilius long enough for Vader to kill Revan and they could take out Plagueis together.

If Plagueis fights Vader and Nihilus fights Revan, Plagueis would kill Vader and Nihilus would kill Revan, and then Plagueis would kill Nihilus most likely.

Yeah I agree tbh.

Credit to Ant.

See? He's a Sith.

I'm aware. I'm saying if those quotes are based off of Traya saying Nihilus was a Sith I wouldn't take them as valid.

Just because someone is "the most powerful", doesn't mean they're unbeatable. We saw this with Sidious when he fought Mace, it's circumstantial.

Syn said, that he could see Nihlius being more powerful. Also, Sidious faked the fight.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
I'm aware. I'm saying if those quotes are based off of Traya saying Nihilus was a Sith I wouldn't take them as valid.