Do you believe Black panther became less skilled

Started by Dareangel4 pages

waiting for someone to come and use the good old "he got captured on purpose to find out some deep secret shit".

Originally posted by spetznaz
That makes very little sense, unless this version of BP is not wearing vibranium-weave threads. His vibranium suit should make such a blow harmless.

Even without it, someone of BP's caliber shouldn't be fazed by such a blow. Imagine Captain America or Batman (or even Bucky or Nightwing) being knocked out like that and strung up?

exactly. in his new run he is portrayed as the average slim agile street leveler. someone should tell the writers that its the wakandian captain america.

Originally posted by Dareangel
yes but again, it all depends on who is making him strugle. imagine if thor would be knocked out by some random thug hitting him with a baseball bat. would you say cool he has to strugle? black panther should strugle sure, but not at the hands of the people that are making him strugle recently.

Its not a low showing. He WAS hit in the back of the head with a butstock of a rifle. That would oneshot anyone. If anything it looks bad for his armor. If people paid less attention to feats and more attention to you kno...the story. None of this would matter0

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Its not a low showing. He WAS hit in the back of the head with a butstock of a rifle. That would oneshot anyone. If anything it looks bad for his armor. If people paid less attention to feats and more attention to you kno...the story. None of this would matter0

Yeah, it's the armour that looks bad, but I suppose people don't debate BP without the armour much.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Yeah, it's the armour that looks bad, but I suppose people don't debate BP without the armour much.

I think it's due to instances like the one above is the reason y noone steers into that territory

I too am susceptible to butts.

dare I'm with you. they aren't doing him justice. this isn't like an old school comic like thanos can be arrested.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Its not a low showing. He WAS hit in the back of the head with a butstock of a rifle. That would oneshot anyone. If anything it looks bad for his armor. If people paid less attention to feats and more attention to you kno...the story. None of this would matter0

an assault rifle stock to the back of the head is not suppose to knock him out or any other peak human. it all depends who delivers the blow. he was hit by a random thug. a hit like that is not suppose to knock him out, and certainly not "anyone" as you stated. and it does matter because aside of story, some people care about the image of the character. pather is among my most favorite characters so i dont like to see him treated in a way his character doesnt deserve.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
If anything it looks bad for his armor. If people paid less attention to feats and more attention to you kno...the story. None of this would matter0

Originally posted by krisblaze
Yeah, it's the armour that looks bad, but I suppose people don't debate BP without the armour much.

Pretty sure a lot of MB posters dont much care about the characters any more, judt what they can do.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Its not a low showing. He WAS hit in the back of the head with a butstock of a rifle. That would oneshot anyone. If anything it looks bad for his armor. If people paid less attention to feats and more attention to you kno...the story. None of this would matter0

Hawkman smashed a grandfather clock(well half or so of one) on the back of Batman's head. Batman wasn't KOed. For the character and situation, I would call this a low showing.

Originally posted by Dareangel
an assault rifle stock to the back of the head is not suppose to knock him out or any other peak human. it all depends who delivers the blow. he was hit by a random thug. a hit like that is not suppose to knock him out, and certainly not "anyone" as you stated. and it does matter because aside of story, some people care about the image of the character. pather is among my most favorite characters so i dont like to see him treated in a way his character doesnt deserve.

So youd rather see him wanked? This unbeatable character that cant be put down? Would u rather some upstart one shot him? I dont get your grievance. Cap is one of my fav characters. But if some mook caught him unawares and koed him i wouldn't bat an eye. Y? Because that makes him believable. A sneak attack is a sneak attack.

Can be considered somewhat low... But in comics, even the mightiest of men have been laid low, by the proverbial cheap shot.

In all honesty the low part about that scene was getting caught in such a manner considering the martial ability of T'Challa's caliber.

I said he breaks chains dammit

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^^^That means he has to get capterd first.

it does make the character more believable as a person I give that. everyone can have an off day. as long as it not common and it goes with the story overall I can deal. like if the character doesn't have the same will or prowess as they did before or something along those lines.

we've seen BP pull off some batman like feats before so I would say for the time being less skilled

Originally posted by Sin I AM
So youd rather see him wanked? This unbeatable character that cant be put down? Would u rather some upstart one shot him? I dont get your grievance. Cap is one of my fav characters. But if some mook caught him unawares and koed him i wouldn't bat an eye. Y? Because that makes him believable. A sneak attack is a sneak attack.

why is everything black or white? respecting the characters abilites =/= wanting to see him wanked. i dont want him to be unbeatable. i just want his stats and abilities to be respected. an enhanced - low super human level character like black panther is not suppose to get knocked out by such thing. then dragged on the floor like a dog with chains around his neck by some random thugs. between this and showing him as undefeated the gap is huge. if you like to see a more human perspective in super human characters thats your thing and its all good. but i am simply asking to see the character portrayed the way he should be, based on his stats and abilities.

Its a fine line, though. For every poster like you, theres a poster that WANTS their characters unbeatable, good story telling be damned, and debate them as unbeatable, logic be damned.
As an example, i "met" a poster here years ago (at another site), when he was saying A could beat B, and no one agreed.
I backed him up by saying A could/would take a slight majority given the evidence.
This poster then flamed me. Because i didnt think it would be an overwhelming 10/10 victory for A.
Posters like that may not be the majority, but theyre often the most vocal.

Originally posted by Dareangel
why is everything black or white? respecting the characters abilites =/= wanting to see him wanked. i dont want him to be unbeatable. i just want his stats and abilities to be respected. an enhanced - low super human level character like black panther is not suppose to get knocked out by such thing. then dragged on the floor like a dog with chains around his neck by some random thugs. between this and showing him as undefeated the gap is huge. if you like to see a more human perspective in super human characters thats your thing and its all good. but i am simply asking to see the character portrayed the way he should be, based on his stats and abilities.

U cant respect his abilities AND have him knocked out? Anyone can get knocked out if they get cheap shot. Not sure if serious

Originally posted by abhilegend
Found it. Black Panther 6.

LMAO.

Isn't it funny how abhi turns into Sherlock Holmes when it comes to making Black Panther look bad?

I want to know what happened next.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Found it. Black Panther 6.

LMAO.

Shame on you Abhy and you Dareangel for even starting this sham thread.

As you can clearly see below it was all part of BP's plan to reveal who was really backing the rebels, and his Crew was watching the entire thing. I even put in the very next issue's intro which spells this out specifically.