Originally posted by Sin I AM
U cant respect his abilities AND have him knocked out? Anyone can get knocked out if they get cheap shot. Not sure if serious
It's that it was random thugs who shouldn't be an issue(even with a cheap shot without other extenuating circumstances) that was his problem.
Though scans were posted showing it was a ploy to get information.
Originally posted by Delta1938
It's that it was random thugs who shouldn't be an issue(even with a cheap shot without other extenuating circumstances) that was his problem.Though scans were posted showing it was a ploy to get information.
👍. I generally reserve my opinion till the whole scene is shown. I still see no issue if that shot had koed him
Originally posted by Sin I AM
U cant respect his abilities AND have him knocked out? Anyone can get knocked out if they get cheap shot. Not sure if serious
I already explained the point twice. no problem with him being knocked out. question is by who. not sure if U are serious. thats already the third time i explain this point.
Originally posted by Supermutant
He is skilled enough to beat Zeke Stane with both hands tied behind his back literally and figuratively.So again shame
and how does it change the fact he was knocked out by an assault rifle, then dragged on the floor by random thugs, which basically means he still took a big dive as far as his stats. maybe if you payed more attention to the little details instead of running and looking for the next GIF, you could use a little bit more cells. maybe..
Originally posted by Supermutant
Shame on you Abhy and you Dareangel for even starting this sham thread.As you can clearly see below it was all part of BP's plan to reveal who was really backing the rebels, and his Crew was watching the entire thing. I even put in the very next issue's intro which spells this out specifically.
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Originally posted by Supermutant
Shame on you Abhy and you Dareangel for even starting this sham thread.As you can clearly see below it was all part of BP's plan to reveal who was really backing the rebels, and his Crew was watching the entire thing. I even put in the very next issue's intro which spells this out specifically.
even if he allowed himself to be captured, it does not change the fact he was taken out by that stock hit. it still doesnt change the fact his stats were therefor low.
Originally posted by Dareangel
and how does it change the fact he was knocked out by an assault rifle, then dragged on the floor by random thugs, which basically means he still took a big dive as far as his stats. maybe if you payed more attention to the little details instead of running and looking for the next GIF, you could use a little bit more cells. maybe..
Maybe if you actually paid attention to the words and plot and not just the pretty pictures, you would stop embarrassing yourself.
BP took an ironman like repulsor blast to the chest, and still kicked Zeke Stane's ass with his hands tied. His stats look pretty fine to me. Daredevil has been taken out by worse. But the meanings of "allowed", "let", and even "plan" are lost on you.
If you want to focus on one low-showing with iffy context fine, just make sure you do the same for DD. Its not like BP has a history of taking blows from Namor w/o being koed.
By the way, I just helped you out with the Daredevil part. 😈
Originally posted by Supermutant
Maybe if you actually paid attention to the words and plot and not just the pretty pictures, you would stop embarrassing yourself.BP took an ironman like repulsor blast to the chest, and still kicked Zeke Stane's ass with his hands tied. His stats look pretty fine to me. Daredevil has been taken out by worse. But the meanings of "allowed", "let", and even "plan" are lost on you.
If you want to focus on one low-showing with iffy context fine, just make sure you do the same for DD. Its not like BP has a history of taking blows from Namor w/o being koed.
again, black panther got knocked out by that stock hit. thats a fact. that was a low showing for his stats, thats also a fact. why do you always fail to pay attention to simple facts?
as for the blast taking, you can clearly see his suit activated and acting as a shield when he is hit by that blast. his suit protected him. however the hit to the back of his head, puts his natural durability vs an impact.
what does daredevil have to do with anything? whats wrong with you? you see thats the difference between you and me. i am not some mentally ill fanboy that will go off because someone dared to offend "my character". and i am also not mentally ill enough to go and open bait threads for someones character, just because he slapped me with facts over something. you are acting like a very troubled person i must say.
Originally posted by Dareangel
again, black panther got knocked out by that stock hit. thats a fact. that was a low showing for his stats, thats also a fact. why do you always fail to pay attention to simple facts?
What you have still yet to realize is that every character has low showing. DD got knocked out by a chair swung from an elderly General then thrown out the window into garbage. That doesn't mean someone's stats are lowered b/c of one poor durability showing. Besides you were implying that BP's overall skills and abilities had diminished until I showed the real context, so nice try kid.
Originally posted by Dareangel
as for the blast taking, you can clearly see his suit activated and acting as a shield when he is hit by that blast. his suit protected him. however the hit to the back of his head, puts his natural durability vs an impact.
lol That wasn't a shield, that was his suit absorbing the blast.
Originally posted by Dareangel
what does daredevil have to do with anything?
Originally posted by Dareangel
i think top street guys today might woop his ass like daredevil and Cap without too much trouble. the way he is portrayed today. but what do you guys think?
You put DD into this from your OP. lol I guess you didn't believe DD had recent low showings.
Originally posted by Dareangel
whats wrong with you? you see thats the difference between you and me. i am not some mentally ill fanboy that will go off because someone dared to offend "my character". and i am also not mentally ill enough to go and open bait threads for someones character, just because he slapped me with facts over something. you are acting like a very troubled person i must say.
I am "going off" b/c I showed the correct context of misleading scans. And b/c I showed how DD whom you compared BP too, also has low durability showings. lol
So, I'm still waiting for these facts that show BP with diminish skills or stats, other than the rare low showing that all characters suffer from.
Originally posted by Supermutant
What you have still yet to realize is that every character has low showing. DD got knocked out by a chair swung from an elderly General then thrown out the window into garbage. That doesn't mean someone's stats are lowered b/c of one poor durability showing. Besides you were implying that BP's overall skills and abilities had diminished until I showed the real context, so nice try kid.lol That wasn't a shield, that was his suit absorbing the blast.
You put DD into this from your OP. lol I guess you didn't believe DD had recent low showings.
I am "going off" b/c I showed the correct context of misleading scans. And b/c I showed how DD [b] whom you compared
BP too, also has low durability showings. lolSo, I'm still waiting for these facts that show BP with diminish skills or stats, other than the rare low showing that all characters suffer from. [/B]
you seem to have real issues with reading comprehension. my whole point is that its a low showing for pather. the main subject is that recently he is portrayed a little too often that way, but of course its a low showing for him. what does bringing other low showings for other characters and stating the obvious has to do with anything???
again, you posting the rest of the story doesnt prove anything. he got knocked out by a hit to the back of his head by an assault rifle stock. thats a low showing for black panther. him taking the blast is a contribute to his tech suit which is clearly showed as his armor was activated and glowing. my point still stands. the way he is portrayed recently is not true to his overall average stats. as of right now we see a weaker version of him that gets knocked out, tossed into walls like garbage easily. thats not black panther. so my point that as of right now, it seems like cap or daredevil can take him out is based on his recent portrayel. now riddle me whats wrong with my statement?
the comparison of current black panther to average daredevil is still standing. i never intended to say or said that overall - black panther is weaker. i am talking about him as of recently. do you understand the differences? not his average his recent. is that clear enough for you?
as of your mental illness, the point still stands. you are a troubled person to open bait threads and take it that personal, instead of just expressing your opinion like the average, standard human being would.
Stop being a fool kid. The scans I showed of DD being knocked out from a chair by an old General are recent. So again, what other evidence do you have of BP's diminished skills or stats? Your interpretations lacks much to say the least.
So that even you can understand the obvious, all the characters you are comparing BP too have recent low feats. I also like that you didn't mention how skillfully BP perform against an iron man foe in the same arc with his hands tied.
BP doesn't have any more recent low showings than any other characters. He also have plenty of good showings, so your thread was doom from the beginning. Next time due some research besides looking at images from a google search.
Originally posted by Supermutant
Stop being a fool kid. The scans I showed of DD being knocked out from a chair by an old General are recent. So again, what other evidence do you have of BP's diminished skills or stats? Your interpretations lacks much to say the least.So that even you can understand the obvious, all the characters you are comparing BP too have recent low feats. I also like that you didn't mention how skillfully BP perform against an iron man foe in the same arc with his hands tied.
BP doesn't have any more recent low showings than any other characters. He also have plenty of good showings, so your thread was doom from the beginning. Next time due some research besides looking at images from a google search.
trash talking is not an argument. i will explain again. i was refering to the current way black panther is portrayed vs average portrayals of captain america and daredevil. this trio is always the head of the spear IMO as far as street levelers. i always agreed that daredevil lacks in strength and durability but he makes up for that with agility and his reflex. but current black panther is portrayed in a way he seem to fall down not only from his average self, but also from cap and daredevil. nit picking and finding me specific portrayals of current daredevil getting hit from a chair has nothing to do with my statements. everybody have their low showings, my point is that as of right now for some time , black panther is portrayed in a weaker depiction. do you understand the things right now? or are you just a child that feels the need to continue and argue over nothing, just to show he wont back down and keep his "line". because it only looks weaker and weaker with every post of yours.
again, reading comprehension. i was talking about his stats, mostly his durability. just because he presented fair enough skills, doesnt mean it automatically cancel other attributes. also, explain to me why is it so great to beat zeke stane in his human form without his armor? is it suppose to be something impressive?
you stating he has good showings is face palm worthy. i was never claiming he doesnt. however, recently, he seem to have more showings of his suffering from lower durability or getting tossed like a feeb. average black panther would never let that happen. i think you should pick up recent black panther issues.
I had to read this issue and a couple more after seeing this thread go to 3 pages. IMO BP is not less skilled now. its just that they are trying to build something up here story wise. I don't think that he was ever even knocked out because his internal monologue never stopped. this is not indicative of panthers skills diminishing so i think he's still good man, no worries. hadn't been into DD books for awhile so ill say nothing on that.
one could argue that he is less skilled because he has to let himself pretend to get knocked out or that he had better options but that is a different thread.
Originally posted by Dareangel
also, explain to me why is it so great to beat zeke stane in his human form without his armor? is it suppose to be something impressive?
More nonsense but this part is amusing, lol @ without his armor. Zeke Stane doesn't need armor, he's basically a cyborg.
Originally posted by Dareangel
i think you should pick up recent black panther issues.
I think you should pick up any comic issues.
Originally posted by Supermutant
More nonsense but this part is amusing, lol @ without his armor. Zeke Stane doesn't need armor, he's basically a cyborg.I think you should pick up any comic issues.
good thanks for clarifying that for me because i dont know much about the character. this is why i asked. i see you got issues with responding like a normal human being and you have to add some of your nerve breakdown problems. please, take a rest or something for your own good. however, what are his physical and fighting feats even as a cyborg? being a cyborg, doesnt make it too impressive on its own to take you down with several hits. at least by the standards of the likes of black panther or captain america.
and it still doesnt change the fact his durability was portrayed low in this issues based on the reasons i stated earlier.
your last response is not a valid response. please read his new appearances and tell me i am wrong.
