Why is Maul the weakest of Sidious's apprentices?

Started by Nephthys4 pages

It's almost as if he'd won before inviting failure on himself like a dumbass by playing with Obi-Wan instead of finishing him off.

Him being a cocky moron who humbles himself by being an over-confident jackass with poor decision making was there from the start. He's not perfect and he never was.

Originally posted by Nephthys
It's almost as if he'd won before inviting failure on himself like a dumbass by playing with Obi-Wan instead of finishing him off.
You're finally catching on. Hence my point. Maul beating himself was more plausible than two Jedi, one of which was plot-protected.

He's clearly very powerful, in insane physical shape, has trained relentlessly for two decades, he's highly intelligent - he has none of the typical drawbacks others have shown such as inexperience, age, prosthetic limitations, and so on. The only thing they could come up with, and continue to come up with, is his arrogance.

Which is shitty storytelling. Good storytelling is having Maul lose fights simply because he deserved to lose, e.g a slugfest with Windu, Dooku or Vader, instead of repeatedly bumping heads with Kenobi's plot armour over and over again. He's had the guy dead to rights like seven times now.

I expect all of this to fly straight over your head, but all the same I'd be interested to see you make an intelligent rebuttal for once.

He does deserve to lose. He's incredibly incompetent.

Your wasting your time Swords, he's a lost cause.

Well to be fair Neph was totally right about Ezra kicking Maul 😄

Da hell is this? Vader is the most pathetic and weakest of the apprentices.

Originally posted by ILS
You're finally catching on. Hence my point. Maul beating himself was more plausible than two Jedi, one of which was plot-protected.

He's clearly very powerful, in insane physical shape, has trained relentlessly for two decades, he's highly intelligent - he has none of the typical drawbacks others have shown such as inexperience, age, prosthetic limitations, and so on. The only thing they could come up with, and continue to come up with, is his arrogance.

Which is shitty storytelling. Good storytelling is having Maul lose fights simply because he deserved to lose, e.g a slugfest with Windu, Dooku or Vader, instead of repeatedly bumping heads with Kenobi's plot armour over and over again. He's had the guy dead to rights like seven times now.

I expect all of this to fly straight over your head, but all the same I'd be interested to see you make an intelligent rebuttal for once.

Yep, bad storytelling.

The same story telling that has Dooku utterly dominate Obi Wan every time, struggle with his apprentice he taught everything to and eventually get killed against, and yet that same master you toy with match's his far superior student (Who's growing power was a stated plot point) in everything, including a raw test of strength force push.

People have their personal explanations for all that (Anakin was unbalanced, like he wasn't unstable since AOTC. Or different "styles", which somehow give Anakin an edge against Dooku but none against Obi), but if fans are making shit up, the movie didn't do it's job.

TCW and Rebels destroyed Maul, let's be honest.

Originally posted by cdtm
Yep, bad storytelling.

The same story telling that has Dooku utterly dominate Obi Wan every time, struggle with his apprentice he taught everything to and eventually get killed against, and yet that same master you toy with match's his far superior student (Who's growing power was a stated plot point) in everything, including a raw test of strength force push.

People have their personal explanations for all that (Anakin was unbalanced, like he wasn't unstable since AOTC. Or different "styles", which somehow give Anakin an edge against Dooku but none against Obi), but if fans are making shit up, the movie didn't do it's job.

The point of Anakin is that he's an exception, as in higher midichlorians than Yoda. I agree that it isn't totally self-evident as to why Obi-Wan stalemated him, though the whole conflict of feelings thing could be reached by fans.

Originally posted by cdtm
Yep, bad storytelling.

The same story telling that has Dooku utterly dominate Obi Wan every time, struggle with his apprentice he taught everything to and eventually get killed against, and yet that same master you toy with match's his far superior student (Who's growing power was a stated plot point) in everything, including a raw test of strength force push.

People have their personal explanations for all that (Anakin was unbalanced, like he wasn't unstable since AOTC. Or different "styles", which somehow give Anakin an edge against Dooku but none against Obi), but if fans are making shit up, the movie didn't do it's job.

its quite clear watching RTOS that Anakin had Obi on the ropes, all he could do was try to outlast Anakin and that wasnt going to happen so he jumped away and Anakins dumb ass went and followed him, had it happened any other way Obi Wan would've been dead.

Maul and Dooku are equals in the Force, imo.

ILS blames bad storytelling when Maul loses to multiple padawans, struggles with dogs, utterly fails as a varied force user, and will die to Kenobi in season 3.

Keep blaming the plot lmao, Maul is just shit

Originally posted by carthage
ILS blames bad storytelling when Maul loses to multiple padawans, struggles with dogs, utterly fails as a varied force user, and will die to Kenobi in season 3.

Keep blaming the plot lmao, Maul is just shit

You are ignoring the context and trying to spin it because you're incredibly insecure over Maul. Maul has resisted death for decades and has survived on his own. He is an impact player so please keep your envy in check.

Impact players don't beg for their lives like little bitches, fail to have any impact even with the backing of Mandalorians, and admit inferiority to other Sith

I'll collect your tears Quan and give them to your boyfriend Thor

Originally posted by carthage
Impact players don't beg for their lives like little bitches, fail to have any impact even with the backing of Mandalorians, and admit inferiority to other Sith

I'll collect your tears Quan and give them to your boyfriend Thor

Yes, they do. Palpatine begged for his life as well. Cuck's like Dooku don't even offer a defense when they were betrayed. He did have an impact hence Palpatine's interference in which he clearly calls him a rival.

Plenty of Sith admit their inferiors as apprentices to their masters. Your knowledge and your bias is about as plan to see as w white head pimple about to burst due to the pressure building up. You are having a meltdown and its glorious.

Originally posted by carthage
ILS blames bad storytelling when Maul loses to multiple padawans,

Still waiting for the names of these "multiple" padawans Troll.

He was trained by the weakest incarnation of Sidious, for one.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Still waiting for the names of these "multiple" padawans Troll.

TPM Obi Wan, And Kanan Jarrus

Cry more my son

Maul is his greatest apprentice making this thread highly amusing.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Maul is his greatest apprentice making this thread highly amusing.
You'll eat those words when Obi-Wan kills him.