DoS Superman vs. 'unlocked' Hulk

Originally posted by carver9
I think psychic had a lot to do with it as well...but, he did snatch the gem clean out of him though. That part did happen. He also one punched him before this. He treated Juggernaut like fodder, twice.

He did fight Jean. He didnt punch a hole in her though. I don't think Superman, DOS Doomsday, Thor, or anyone worth mentioning is punching a hole clean through Juggernaut with the tip of their fingers. No matter how much they play with Juggernauts mind.

Had Onslaught actually tried to prevent the destruction of his shell, I might be inclined to hop on board with you... 😛

Originally posted by Galan007
This is DoS Superman, with the bloodlusted mindset he had against Doomsday:

Originally posted by Galan007
Superman only became bloodlusted/out for the kill in the final issue of that arc. So no, any of his poorer showings from earlier in the arc really don't matter much, given that he was in his 'normal' mindset in the issues prior.

As I'm sure you know, there is a HUGE difference between a bloodlusted and standard Supes. 👆

So do you mean Superman in the mindset where he killed Doomsday but fresh instead of waiting until he was injured and exhausted from the fight?

Originally posted by Galan007
Kay, but also remember that Onslaught actually wanted Hulk to destroy his shell -- he certainly didn't try to prevent it from happening.

IOW, Hulk isn't duplicating all of Onslaught's feats... If that's what you're getting at. 😉

This was never implied, at all.

Naah, Hulk can't duplicate those fts but what I do know is that Hulk was more powerful than everyone on the field (and the planet). This was said and shown.

Originally posted by carver9
This was never implied, at all.

Originally posted by Galan007
Sure it was, bud. Existing as raw psionic energy was the final/ultimate form that Onslaught sought to achieve -- and he could only do so by shedding his physical armor/body *enter Hulk*:

He didn't even know Hulk would come at him like that. He was evolving before hulk entered the fray but it was interrupted which lead to Hulk attacking afterwards.

Hulk did assist in his evolution but that wasn't planned or hinted at Onslaught allowing him to do it.

Originally posted by carver9
Don't know why we are talking about secret wars Hulk. He get one punched killed by this version of Hulk as well.

Sigh...why are you bringing up Doomsday fighting a team? I never said him or Superman are weak. What I am saying though is that Superman would get killed by this version of Hulk. Also, are you implying Doomsday beating the JLA is better than pinching a hole in Juggernaut?

Why am I bringing DD steamrolling the JLA team? Are you serious?

Well like I said but you didn't understand "superman went toe to toe with a guy who steamrolled the JLA" that is why I mention it, because it doesn't help your case that Superman can defeat a guy who steamrolled the JLA with one hand tied behind his back, that is why.

And as it has been mentioned there was some psychic context on the feat your are presenting, weather you "think" is relevant or not that is a different topic, but yes it has something to do.

Now if you feel so confident I dare you to do a vs thread in whinch we put This Juggernaut that you are using for your argument with one hand tied behind his back steamrolling the DOS JLA team the same way DOS Doomsday did. 🙂

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Why am I bringing DD steamrolling the JLA team? Are you serious?

Well like I said but you didn't understand "superman went toe to toe with a guy who steamrolled the JLA" that is why I mention it, because it doesn't help your case that Superman can defeat a guy who steamrolled the JLA with one hand tied behind his back, that is why.

And as it has been mentioned there was some psychic context on the feat your are presenting, weather you "think" is relevant or not that is a different topic, but yes it has something to do.

Now if you feel so confident I dare you to do a vs thread in whinch we put This Juggernaut that you are using for your argument with one hand tied behind his back steamrolling the DOS JLA team the same way DOS Doomsday did. 🙂

And Hulk fought against a being that had Earth on lock down.

Maxima also went toe to toe with this same being and was holding her own. She would get killed by this version of HULK as well.

Psychic had nothing to do with Onslaught pinching Juggernaut chest open. Also, before this, Onslaught one shit koed Juggernaut and Onslaught was weakened. Both Superman and Doomsday are powerful but neither is pinching a hole in Juggernaut, even if he was sleep and they sure as hell isn't one punching him.

I never said Juggernaut could beat anyone but what I am saying is Doomsday nor Superman is treating him like fodder and it's debatable if they could damage him, something that Onslaught did with the tip of his finger.

😂 of course not, in your eyes Hulk ≥>>>>>>>>> anyone else.

Maxima will do fine vs Hulk if you think otherwise you clearly don't know anything about Maxima.

But glad we agree Juggernaut is not steamrolling a DOS JLA roster with one hand tied behind his back, so basically DOS DD >>>>>> Juggernaut.

Which makes my case stronger.

If you want we can put this Hulk trying to replicate what Doomsday did during the DOS saga, I'm sure He is not passing the full out blast by the JLA. Specially not with one hand behind his back.

There is a similar thread in which I put Thanos is the same situation as Dos DD and people thought I did it for pure spite, which it wasn't the case, it was just to show how powerful DOS Doomsday was. 🙂

Carter can't type.

Originally posted by carver9
And Hulk fought against a being that had Earth on lock down.

Maxima also went toe to toe with this same being and was holding her own. She would get killed by this version of HULK as well.

Psychic had nothing to do with Onslaught pinching Juggernaut chest open. Also, before this, Onslaught one shit koed Juggernaut and Onslaught was weakened. Both Superman and Doomsday are powerful but neither is pinching a hole in Juggernaut, even if he was sleep and they sure as hell isn't one punching him.

I never said Juggernaut could beat anyone but what I am saying is Doomsday nor Superman is treating him like fodder and it's debatable if they could damage him, something that Onslaught did with the tip of his finger.

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Originally posted by Rao Kal El
😂 of course not, in your eyes Hulk ≥>>>>>>>>> anyone else.

Maxima will do fine vs Hulk if you think otherwise you clearly don't know anything about Maxima.

But glad we agree Juggernaut is not steamrolling a DOS JLA roster with one hand tied behind his back, so basically DOS DD >>>>>> Juggernaut.

Which makes my case stronger.

If you want we can put this Hulk trying to replicate what Doomsday did during the DOS saga, I'm sure He is not passing the full out blast by the JLA. Specially not with one hand behind his back.

There is a similar thread in which I put Thanos is the same situation as Dos DD and people thought I did it for pure spite, which it wasn't the case, it was just to show how powerful DOS Doomsday was. 🙂

Onslaught's psionic form is irrelevant to this thread since nobody else will have that when their body is also shattered to pieces

'Unlocked' Hulk lol, what a name. Superman stomps this big green idiot.

Originally posted by carver9
Wait a minute. You think punching a worm is more impressive than the shockwaves from Hulk punches sending hero's flying and pushing back beings like Thor, Namor and Thing and also having Reed think that it was the end.

It was also mentioned that Hulk punch warped reality (which is the reason him and Banner separated).

Originally posted by psycho gundam
To be fair, Onslaught was handling himself really well against Earth's heroes and at least physically, Hulk beat him with one arm "tied behind his back". That punch was from the ground up with no leverage plus Onslaught was holding him down by the wrists yet that punch was enough to shatter his entire shell which previously took the combined effort of the Magneto clone Joseph, Cable, a visorless Cyclops' full blast, Invisible woman opening up the cracks with her power and then Thor flying through him just to rip a hole through his torso.

Onslaught's psionic form is irrelevant to this thread since nobody else will have that when their body is also shattered to pieces

Fair enough, that is why I say it will be a hard fight.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
To be fair, Onslaught was handling himself really well against Earth's heroes and at least physically, Hulk beat him with one arm "tied behind his back". That punch was from the ground up with no leverage plus Onslaught was holding him down by the wrists yet that punch was enough to shatter his entire shell which previously took the combined effort of the Magneto clone Joseph, Cable, a visorless Cyclops' full blast, Invisible woman opening up the cracks with her power and then Thor flying through him just to rip a hole through his torso.

Onslaught's psionic form is irrelevant to this thread since nobody else will have that when their body is also shattered to pieces

Originally posted by mighty adam
Onslaught wanted them to destroy his physical form. Yall acting like yall have convenient amnesia some of the must retarded sh!t i ever heard people say come from this forum.

Originally posted by mighty adam
Onslaught wanted them to destroy his physical form. Yall acting like yall have convenient amnesia some of the must retarded sh!t i ever heard people say come from this forum.

1 question: for someone who could create stars, why did he need help removing his own carapace armour?

Superman oneshots hulk.

👆

Originally posted by psycho gundam
I'll bite.

1 question: for someone who could create stars, why did he need help removing his own carapace armour?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
To be fair, Onslaught was handling himself really well against Earth's heroes and at least physically, Hulk beat him with one arm "tied behind his back". That punch was from the ground up with no leverage plus Onslaught was holding him down by the wrists yet that punch was enough to shatter his entire shell which previously took the combined effort of the Magneto clone Joseph, Cable, a visorless Cyclops' full blast, Invisible woman opening up the cracks with her power and then Thor flying through him just to rip a hole through his torso.

Onslaught's psionic form is irrelevant to this thread since nobody else will have that when their body is also shattered to pieces

He was also getting stronger by every moment and Superman still killed him when he went all out.

That's far more impressive than breaking Onslaught's shell which was getting blasted through by Cyclops.

Superman would punch Hulk's lights out with such an attack.